Quito

[kered]

This was staying on at the finish the other day at york i think in a very good handicap it runs tommorrow so must hold reasonable each way claims.

[tangdynasty]

1 mile not suit to Quito (7lb higher now) Good Luck Mate :wink

[kered]

3rd in the end staying on strongly at the end of the race, so it stays in the notebook.

[samantha1303]

Well done Kered.
I knew I had seen this somewhere, couldn't find it this morning so I stuck 50p each way on it as it was nice odds.

[kered]

Sam you would have lost as there were less than 8 runners but it wasnt beaten far so should be placed next time out.

[samantha1303]

Thats ok Kered I will remember the name now for next time

[codford]

running in 2:40 at york today 25/1

[John]

Quito is another horse I've kept in my notebook. First it was because of the name, so I backed it and it won at 14/1. Ever since I've been tracking its progress! Well reminded codford. :wink

[John]

Doesn't seem to have much chance against that sort of opposition but it might be worth a tiny place bet on betfair. I think C Grade is Quito's peak; B Grade looks too high for him. Culhane's a good jock though.

[John]

Ran a great race, just missed out on the places - 4th. An improver to say the least. :)

[John]

4th today @ 50/1 SP (22 ran so paying to 4 places).

Had anyone posted a reminder, we'd have all been rich! :mover

[bigcumba]

That was a tough race and I admit to thinking it had no chance at all - how wrong.... ::swear

[John]

From now on, I'm going to back it for a place until it comes unplaced, regardless of its price. :mover

[kered]

Sorry i didnt back it either though only did my most confident bets along with a very risky 7/1 shot Sky Galaxy, with hidnsight i should have bet on every race today than id have made a profit.

[John]

Never bet on every race Kered, it's the quick way to the poor house.

[tangdynasty]

is time for quito.

[TheOldhamWhisper]

Thanks for bringing this to the top Tang - looks a decent proposition at the price. I'll be dutching Quito (Drawn 10), Corridor Creeper (2) and Orientor (20) - not getting beaten by the draw!!!

Small EW on all of them.

[kered]

Quito is going to be a small 25p e/w for me today.

[tangdynasty]

Corridor Creeper in my bet list too.

Come On My Fav Assassin

[TheOldhamWhisper]

WooHoo!!!

[Littlewesty]

Yes, Yes, Yes, at last for Quito

[tangdynasty]

my assasin done very well

[Darrell66]

Quito wins at 20/1, well done boys for reminding us had a tenner on it today.

[mathare]

Yep, excellent run by Quito, very impressive

[davidalex]

Did Corridor Creeper E/W
A tenner on Quito means a good night tonight!!
Cheers

[bigcumba]

Well done everyone who backed Quito this time out

[silax]

after all that i hope kered was on it

[tangdynasty]

he did 25p e/w :doh

[tangdynasty]

message to oldham:i missed on TYCHY,i've been told by my source she was ill month ago :(

[kered]

I made a profit on horses today of just over £ 12.52 but lost £ 4.09 on footy bets still a £ 8.43 profit 2day nearly makes up for losing £ 9.02 on Thursday.

[TheOldhamWhisper]

message to oldham:i missed on TYCHY,i've been told by my source she was ill month ago :(

Runs next Saturday - will wait to see who rides though. I think the Pontefract run was supposed to be a 'prep' for Saturday.

[bigcumba]

Well done Kered, that must be one of your best days for a while thanks to Quito :)

[kered]

now only £ 4.10 down for the year lets hope i get my act together assuming the flat fave tracker keeps working.

[John]

Assuming?!!!! It's proven over a long long time. :) Quito is superb, and if horses have confidence, that win in such a big race will have given it a major boost. :spinning

[tangdynasty]

Runs next Saturday - will wait to see who rides though. I think the Pontefract run was supposed to be a 'prep' for Saturday.

i'll give him a ring then.

[collegetech]

Quito runs today 2.45 York currently 10/1

[John]

Thanks collegetech, I'll have a dabble.

[John]

Shame :(

[collegetech]

Quito runs tomorrow 1.55 Doncaster RP site has it at 8/1 so far.

[Darrell66]

Quito runs in the 2.05 at Sothwell tomorrow, cuurent Betfair price of 8.2.

[kered]

Quito 2nd at 14/1 didnt back it myself as i didnt think 5 furlongs would suit the horse.

[Darrell66]

Just lost out by a head!!

[John]

QUITO is running today at 2.40 (Lingfield). Currently trading on Betfair at 12.

[John]

Whenever I back him, he loses. Whenever I don't, he wins/places! Very unpredictable horse with plenty of ability and potential. Today just wasn't meant to be for Quito. :(

[TheOldhamWhisper]

I usually wait til Tangdynasty gives us the nod. He's usually right when he says it will run well.

[matthewluck]

Runs Tomorrow tues 9th dec @ Southwell

[kered]

tempted to back it but it isnt very reliable the horse has made me very happy once this season when he won at 20/1 so im happy

[John]

He finished 4th, but I don't know how many runners there were or if the race was a handicap or not. What were the place prices?

[Thierry Henry]

He was the favourite. You could get him for 2.2 to place, but he went down to 1.7 just before the off.

Four places in the race as it was a handicap :)

[John]

Thanks Mr. Henry. :D

[matthewluck]

Runs today 3.00 Lingfield, however my pick of the race would have to be Texas Gold.

Better to back quito for a place

matt

[on the nose]

Quito runs 2moz 9th jan.
Has a good chance about bloodytime 2. :)

[John]

4.05 Wolverhampton today.

[John]

WON at last!! :) - SP 7/1

But it was a Pro Loser too and I'm following those today for a change. :(

[bigcumba]

was the only winner in my lays as well.... :(

[John]

Runs in the 4.15 today at Ling, sorry for the short notice.

[inittowinit]

runs in the 14:45 at Donny(65 on betty)can't see it losing..LOL

[MarcusMel]

Came 2nd at a very nice price! 50-1

[Workshy]

Very strong finish, one to note.

Another good finisher (after being hampered was Material World at Newbury, 2nd @ 20/1)

[inittowinit]

nearly had to eat my hat,very good finish,2nd at 50/1..keep an eye on this one

[haveabet]

great shout with quito. well done in finding a big each way shot.

[matthewluck]

Well done, excellent horse is quito - gutted i didnt back it today

matt :D

[bigcumba]

For all his fans, Quito runs Saturday 3rd at Lingfield in the 335 - nice build up to the Grand National! :)

[bigcumba]

Runs again Monday 12th in the 355 at warwick

[John]

1.30 York - Thursday 13th May - WON 12/1

[collegetech]

thanks for reminding us.

wins easily. got 17's on betty for it :)

[John]

Me too :D

[piggy]

::swear missed it

[yerotsluap]

A very impressive run blew them all away in the final furlong

Entered for the Lockinge at Newbury on Saturday

[domjon]

runs today at Haydock (3.20) Worth a punt or too much opposition this time?

[bigcumba]

Maybe a small e/w if the price suits (haven't checked early prices yet)

[John]

He's 7.4 at the moment but I'm hoping he'll drift a bit. :)

[John]

Unplaced the other day.

Runs again tomorrow (Saturday) 3.00 Epsom Group 3 Race. Price reflects his chances (currently 30). I think this, again, will be too big an ask for him to get a place. Probably will leave it, although whenever I leave him alone, he gets a fine result.....

[TheOldhamWhisper]

Withdrawn overnight.

[John]

Runs in the 1.55 Newcastle today (Saturday)

[bigcumba]

Runs today in the 335 at Haydock

[John]

Was just about to post! Hope he does the business, this race looks like it could well be his.

[inittowinit]

14/08/04 runs in the 14:50 Newbury

[John]

Thanks I, currently trading at 15.0's on Betfair, running in a 7f Group 3

[markwales]

Running in the 2.50 at Newmarket today.

Short notice I know !!

[Jonny2621]

A couple of quid at 8.8, who knows...

[bod1]

runs 2 mora at donny 2.25

[phil_999]

Quito is down to run

NEWMARKET 3.10 SAT 30/10/04

[bigcumba]

Thought I might put some stats together for Quito in the same way I did for Paddywack - hope some of you find this useful!

He's had 65 runs since Summer 2002 - 11 wins for a SR of 17% If you had backed him every time you would be 29.5pts in profit to SP, and a fair bit more at Betfair odds as the prices range from 7/4 to 20/1.

Let's break these down to see if we can rule out some races he has little or no chance of winning....maybe useful for laying!

Flat turf - 6 wins frm 43 = 14% for 20.25pts profit.

Flat AW - 5 wins from 22 = 23% for 9.25pts profit.

Now to break down the stats a bit more -

Going - He has only ever won on Good to Firm, Good, Good to Soft and Standard AW - 9 losing races outwith these. - breaking it down further - GTF 2 from 17, Gd 3 from 15, GTS 1 from 5, Std 5 from 19. Losers - Firm 0 from 1, Soft 0 from 4, Heavy 0 from 1, AW Slow 0 from 3

Class - All wins have been class B through to F, 6 losing races at Listed and above. Breaking it down - F - 1 from 3, E - 2 from 11, D - 3 from 9, C - 3 from 21, B - 2 from 15. Losers - Listed 0 from 2, Gp3 0 from 3, Gp1 0 from 1.

Distance - he has only ever won at 6 or 7 furlongs. 15 losing races at 5 or 8 furlongs. - breaking it down further - 6f - 8 from 28, 7f - 3 from 22. Losers - 5f - 0 from 6, 8f - 0 from 5.

Size of field - 9 of his wins were in fields of 8 to 14 runners, no wins in 2 races of 5 to 7, and one each in 15 to 18, and 19+

Courses - he has run at 19 different courses - but only won at Ayr (1 from 3), Haydock (1 from 5), Musselburgh (1 from 1), Newcastle (1 from 2), Southwell ( 1 from 9), Thirsk (1 from 4), Wolves (4 from 9), York (1 from 4)

Losing courses were - Ascot (1 run), Beverley (4), Catterick (1), Doncaster (6), Hamilton (1), Lingfield (5), Newbury (2), Newmarket (1), Pontefract (2), Ripon (3), Warwick (1)

In summary it looks like he's worth backing in any 6 or 7f race at GTF through to GTS and Standard going, at no higher than class B. Lay him at 5 or 8f, and at listed class or higher.

Maybe not enough stats on some courses to be certain of their significance, but we've enough to give us an idea of when he's more (or less) likely to win.... :)

[John]

Excellent post Campbell, although we have to remember that the past isn't an exact guide for the future - that's life I'm afraid, but this does make things a lot clearer from a punter's perspective. I'm not sure what first attracted me to backing Quito - I think it was the name, and at the time he was winning a lot of races. Nice horse. :)

[tangdynasty]

[QUOTE=tangdynasty]did u guys notice that quito only won in big price & this horse rarely win twice in a row :wink

[Workshy]

Wins only in handicaps & conditions races so we can discount Group/Listed events etc.

Personally, I think his next run wont be 'the one' as its a mile listed race. After that, start looking for him in a 6/7f conditions/handicap race. :)

[John]

Saturday Reminder (thanks Phil originally)

3.10 Newmarket - 1m Listed Race.

The currently declared going is Soft though, and the stats represent 0 from 4 on Soft. It's make your mind up time. :doh

[bigcumba]

Also never won at above class B - this is listed, so another negative point, and it's a mile - never won at above 7f. Looks like a dead cert lay to me!

[John]

Yeah, and to me too now you mention those points. Now watch it go and win!

[markwales]

6f listed in 10 mins time.

Good to Sft ground.

[mathare]

As it's listed I guess it's a lay under BigC's stats...

[Steven Gerrard]

I've backed it in my lucky 15 :) Good luck.

[markwales]

I've layed it...

[markwales]

0 from 6 at Donny thus far too..

[markwales]

Disaster

[TheOldhamWhisper]

I kept the faith - Get In!

[Steven Gerrard]

Nice one, 1st winner 7/2 not bad. Come on other 3. Make my day. :)

[John]

Missed it completely :splapme

[bigcumba]

As did I thankfully - would have gone with the lay as well on the stats I did....

[markwales]

Everything told me to lay it, and lay it I did....

0/6 at Donny, never won in listed company, not great on G/S...

Oh well, is happens.

[John]

Runs in the 3.45 at Lingfield.

Distance: 7f
Going: Std

Good draw, but a lay based on the stats.

[John]

I'll get me coat. :butthead:

[John]

I doubt this is the last time I'll say this. But this horse seems to win every time I choose to ignore it/lay it, and lose every time I pay an interest and back it. Sod's Law dictates this happening once or twice, but not every time I remember it runs!

Campbell I'm thinking of compiling a spreadsheet for this horse based on the stats you put up, unless you have done this already... please let me know if you think it's worthwhile.

Will be done next Monday at the earliest if yes. Cheers :)

[bigcumba]

I haven't done it so your welcome to try John :)

[Steven Gerrard]

3.30 Wolverhampton 6f C class

[John]

Thanks for the heads up.

[GlosRFC]

So, now you were reminded that it was running, I'm guessing you backed it because it went ( o ) ( o )'s up today :D

[Workshy]

So, now you were reminded that it was running, I'm guessing you backed it because it went ( o ) ( o )'s up today :D
Double lay for the members :hic

[e55exboi]

Lol

[John]

Yes a double lay indeed, not normally one to touch fun/method bets with a barge pole any more, but I laid it, sorry Glos :D

[Steven Gerrard]

I didn't back it, i somehow knew it wasn't going to win. However i did have the winner, Prince Tum Tum at 14/1 :D I didn't even think it got a mention in commentary did it?

[bigcumba]

Just about to run in the 340!

[bigcumba]

should have said just about to take his time in the 340 :rolleyes:

[e55exboi]

Was just about to take a face full o ***** in the 3.40 ::swear

[bigcumba]

Was just about to take a face full o *****

:yikes: What you get up to in the privacy of your own home is up to you :laugh

[Onlyforfun]

If that had won I'd never have looked at RSB ever again. Had a rather large liability laying it!

[e55exboi]

How do u find a laying system on RSB? Do u just find the worst possibly backing system u can and just lay the qualifiers?

[Onlyforfun]

Exactly! I also use the bare ratings + RD price ratings, coupled with the exchange prices to point up good lay/back opportunities. Costs £11/day for the info after noon, but well worth it. -30% ROI equates to roughly +5% ROI on liabilities.

[e55exboi]

So wot sort of strike rate can you go for and how much minus LSP before itl work laying? If its say 20% SR and -45 LSP would it work laying?

[mathare]

Get the qualifiers and a magic spreadsheet and check it out

[e55exboi]

Cant do spreadsheets weve been there

[mathare]

All the hard work has been done for you.

Go to the downloads section

[e55exboi]

Dont u remember our PMing about that? Ive downloaded open office and it takes hours trying to open the NH spreadsheets, it doesnt open them infact. Plus cant figure out how to copy and paste a whole load of qualifiers, certainly not typing each one in indvidually, be quicker on paper

[Onlyforfun]

It depends on the odds aswell, its easy to get systems with HUGE negative ROI% but you can't lay 33/1 shots at 33/1 on Betfair.

[Fadetoblack]

:laugh

[eastyorkshireracing]

14/04/05 pops in at 14/1 :laugh

Gordon

[silax]

yep brilliant pro-loser winner

[inittowinit]

Runs today,York 3:00........and a pro-loser!!

[lowe1]

Runs today,York 3:00........and a pro-loser!!


ive had a bit on him to win today, i think this will be his race

[eastyorkshireracing]

ive had a bit on him to win today, i think this will be his race
The major concern lowe1 would be the return to Handicaps. Has done well of late in Listed non-handicaps. Last H'cap win was a year ago at this course, but over 6f (7f today). Was rated 103 that day, 109 here, could be hammered by the weight.

Good Luck!

Gordon

[inittowinit]

get in there!!!!!

[Elbarto]

Good call lads, only with about 2 furlongs to go i noticed the name and thought straight away of his mention here

[silax]

yep brilliant pro-loser winner
ditto ;fire

[lowe1]

ive had a bit on him to win today, i think this will be his race


as i was saying :D :D :D :D :D

[vegyjones]

wasn't that confident so dutched him with the fav!
Very nice! :D

[inittowinit]

Exactly what i did Vegy...played quito e/w and a saver on the fav.A very healthy return :wiggle:

[matthewluck]

Quito was 2nd @ 15/2 Newcastle 2.10 25/06/05

Runs again 2nd July 4.30 Haydock - should be an interesting prospect,

matt :)

[vegyjones]

Hey Matthew...

long time no post! :doh

Good to see you mate, how you keeping? :)

[inittowinit]

Runs today...4:30 haydock....hopefully get a run for your money?

[inittowinit]

Runs today 3:05 Newmarket July Cup-currently 22.0 on bettie,a e/w shout looks good value

[matthewluck]

Runs 3.05 Sussex Stakes Goodwood Weds 27th June

Ive got 50p ew at 50/1
matthew

[matthewluck]

Sorry its actually Quito 3.25 Goodwood!!

[matthewluck]

Oh, and thats today !!

[presto]

that dam horse does it again ;fire

[GlosRFC]

Oh, and thats today !!
It was....


that dam horse does it again ;fire
It did....

And I backed it for a change :wiggle:

[TheOldhamWhisper]

I think we should adopt it! It's made a few quid for the forum readers over the years. :)

[silax]

looks like an excellent horse to trade on didn't see the race today but normally sits at the back and makes a run about 1 fl out

[presto]

it's cost me about £2k :(

[silax]

was that today presto or in total
its at the bottom of my most fav horse list

[presto]

in total silax.
not sure but i reckon i have layed it about 6 or 7 times. and it has won 4 or 5 and lost twice. once being a falsie aswell as a pro lay.

so it's not one of my faves either.

[silax]

hope you had some on presto shrinko

[silax]

i gave up laying the bugger and skiped it again today
paid off today but it still owes me

[presto]

bugger - missed presto shinko.

that was going to be one of my 'merlin comp' pick's, but i was in a bit of a rush and only looked at that race after i posted.

now 'presto shinko' - that's one of my fav's, i have only put 3 bet's on in the bookies, presto shinko was one of them, and it won @ 20/1 SP

[John]

Awesome horse :D Missed it today though.

[matthewluck]

damn! i missed it too :(

[presto]

forgot to mention earler - that dam horse is running again today 3:20 for all you followers

[Vic]

It's on the Quito lay system again Presto - got your money on? :D

[presto]

early on it was trading around 12/13
so i left a lay @ 9.4 - not that bothered if it got taken or not :rolleyes: (i only do it with this 1 horse by the way).

but it got taken, and is now paying me back in small installments :)

[MarcusMel]

E/w anybody? :D

[presto]

another lay - still paying me back :rolleyes:

[Fadetoblack]

Lads you should read this thread from the start...it really is an interesting read. Pretty amazing how many times this horse has run and how consistant he is. And that it was kered who brought him to our attention. :laugh

[presto]

wow this thread goes back 2 years :yikes:

[inittowinit]

goes today....3:10 Newmarket-Presto Shinko and Baron's Pit both n/r's

[Profit Seeker]

Glad it lost, had my brand new 50% stakes on it!

[Win2Win]

I enjoyed watching this one lose :)

Did anyone notice Kered started this thread! :doh

[bigcumba]

One for the 'Where are they now' category....

[sparkyminer]

Quito won again today.:rolleyes: :)

Haydock 3.55 Full Result

1st 1 Quito (IRE) 11-8 F
2nd 5 Mine (IRE) 11-2

[Win2Win]

Pretty much obviosu it'd win in that class.....I had a punt....but had to wait to ensure the weather didn't bugger it up by raining.

[markwales]

Runs today 3.05 Haydock

Templegate tipping up the bugger in the Sun. :peeky:

Currently 8.8

[TheOldhamWhisper]

You think we can stop following him yet? - it's been about 4 years now and I think he might have spotted us :D

[markwales]

I only did it to keep a 4 year old thread alive :laugh