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Merlin
11th March 2005, 02:40
Hi,

I am considering a website concerning volunteering and tourism in Brazil....

Of course I would want it to look quite professional etc......and would want to design it myself if possible......although I am an IT pleb.....:laugh.....

Any advice would be really apreciated not only regarding building web-sites but on hosting too.....and the bottom line....COSTS....:yikes:

Thanks in advance.....

bigcumba
11th March 2005, 02:51
www.1and1.co.uk are who I use, seems reliable and fairly cheap for a smallish site - you can start at £1.99 a month for an 8 page website, and £4.99 for a decent size one - plus the usual extras - 20 e-mail accounts etc. They include an easy to use online website builder or you can start from scratch with your own design.

www.1and1.co.uk

go down to the bottom of the left hand column and have a look at the package advisor for some help on what you may need. Good luck!

Merlin
11th March 2005, 02:55
Great BigC.....thanks.....will have a butchers...

Win2Win
11th March 2005, 09:41
www.supanames.co.uk costs only £13.99 a year including .co.uk name. I start all my sites with them, but will be moving them onto my server once I figured it out, and then maybe sell some space :)

Merlin
11th March 2005, 14:07
Thanks Birthday Boy......Supanames look good....regarding cost and benefits....I cant see any website-building help though...........:yikes:.......I am a COMPLETE - IT - DUMMY.........I would most certainly need web building software......plus a comprehensive idiots guide..........

Another Question
.........................

How would I go about arranging a way for customers to pay for products(at least deposits anyway) through a website.......would I need to sign up to a financial host partner......?

Cheers guys...

markwales
11th March 2005, 14:10
Another Question
.........................

How would I go about arranging a way for customers to pay for products(at least deposits anyway) through a website.......would I need to sign up to a financial host partner......?

Cheers guys...

Paypal.com maybe a good place to start, and it's charges are very small for business users.

Merlin
11th March 2005, 14:12
Thanks Mark...

vegyjones
11th March 2005, 14:12
www.freewebs.com

is a free webhoster who I use to do my footy sim.
You need hardly any IT knowhow, it is really easy
to build up your site.

You have to have www.freewebs.com/yourtitle

but you coulod do like a trial run with them
and upgrade it to a .co.uk if you fancy at a later date!

Silax recommended them and if you want a free
web host, it's the bees knees!

Merlin
11th March 2005, 14:55
Obrigado Vegster......

GlosRFC
11th March 2005, 15:26
Plenty of online resources to assist you in building a site. Try googling on "HTML help". Some places to get you started are:

http://archive.ncsa.uiuc.edu/General/Internet/WWW/HTMLPrimer.html
http://werbach.com/barebones/
http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Guide/
and http://freespace.virgin.net/sizzling.jalfrezi/iniframe.htm is a very useful guide for first-time HTML monkeys.

In terms of software, you can start off with Frontpage Express which is still bundled free with Windows as far as I know. Alternatively, to go www. coffeecup.com and download their free WYSIWYG HTML editor. It's the one I started with before I progressed to Dreamweaver and is very easy to use. You can also download their free FTP program too which will come in handy when you want to upload your site.

And you can always ask for further advice in here :D

Win2Win
11th March 2005, 15:45
If your planning on charging, not recommended to use a free service, it looks bad. You can get demo of Namo Web Editor, in fact they even give copies away in the PC mags.

vegyjones
11th March 2005, 15:46
Obrigado Vegster......

Obrigado???

Is that Brazilian for you Sex God :laugh

Merlin
11th March 2005, 16:49
Obrigado???

Is that Brazilian for you Sex God :laugh

No - its a new route to dodge the swear filter....:laugh

Thanks for the info Glos.....

Merlin
11th March 2005, 18:07
Yes Keith.......Its gonna be a huge challenge for me.....Thats why I wasnt keen on a free site.....besides I dont think free sites would be able to provide the professional look and services that I envisage using......

This is a massive project - because I intend to market the UK, USA, AUSTRALIA and CANADA........I have everything set up ready in Brazil.....I just need the website and marketing to get the punters in.......on volunteering projects.......and tourism - and a combination of the two........

I already have a biggish operation here - and have a partnership with 3 companies.....2 American and 1 British.......who provide the volunteers for our projects.......

The British company gives me 80% of my business (Pareto wouldl be pleased)......And at the moment we have negotiated fair contracts - which will remain for the next two years....However, I do sense a change for the future.....whereby, they will want to tip the balance as it were more their way......

In short, if I fell out with them, I would be left with a great operation here (because this remains mine - and always will)....but without the clients which they provide I would be shafted.......

The bottom line is if I make my own arrangements to recruit clients - and can maintain the current level of recruitment.........at even 50% of the current level........It would increase my turnover 10 fold (financial)..........

But it wont be easy.........perhaps I should enrol on an IT course here in Brazil......cause I will need all the help I can get in that sphere......everything else is a doddle........

Thanks again for your help guys.....

mathare
11th March 2005, 18:14
Merl - start small and work up to it would be my advice.

Get a few free WYSIWYG tools and play around with styles, fonts, layout etc. It often helps to sketch your website out on paper first. Which pages will link to which other pages? What will the menu look like etc?

Make a few pages on your PC then put them up in some free/borrowed webspace and allow your mates to have a play with the site and tell you what they think. What do they like? What doesn't work for them? How does it look in different browsers and at different resolutions?

Once you know more what things you and your potential audience like/dislike and what info you need the site to hold etc. then you can take a better view on whether it is something you could create yourself and whether you need to get professionals in to do it.

HTH.

Merlin
11th March 2005, 18:25
Thanks Matt - great advice........I think I will mess about with a few freebies....to get the hang of it so to speak......although the website design (in theory) is not a problem........because the companies I work with(and others) have very good sites out there doing the job........ But they are merely recruiters who provide clients for operations such as mine....

In actual fact the pages which they use for their web-sites (regarding the Brazil projects etc) I wrote and designed anyway.........but on paper only - they then transfered my information onto their own websites.........And this is of course the bit that I need to learn to do......:yikes:

John
11th March 2005, 19:47
Hi Merlin,

I tried to send you a PM but your PM's are switched off... so I tried sending an email but it returned a delivery status notification failure... so now I'm lost! Is there any other way I can get in touch with you (alternate email?) ... two tins and a piece of string... morse code...? :doh

Merlin
11th March 2005, 19:54
Gone......:yikes:

John
11th March 2005, 19:57
Sent to your hotmail as a first try - here's hoping!

Merlin
11th March 2005, 20:02
OK John - just recieved....thanks ........

Win2Win
11th March 2005, 20:46
I can send you some templates if you want. I started this site knowing nothing about the HTML, and just got my head stuck in a few books.

Merlin
11th March 2005, 23:03
Thats very kind of you Keith.........I would apreciate that.......thanks.....

Merlin
16th March 2005, 00:20
Anyone got experience of hosting with Bravenet ?

I started using their free service to mess about with - looks pretty useful, particularly for a complete and utter philistine like me...:yikes:

Thanks.....

John
16th March 2005, 00:31
I don't have any experience with them Merlin, but if you post up your questions, I'll be more than glad to help out.

Phil
16th March 2005, 02:03
http://www.da.ru/ is not a bad free site if you have some webspace that comes with your ISP, and there is only a small discreet banner at the bottom of each page containing no images. At least thats how it used to be a couple of years ago when I had a site with them...

Win2Win
16th March 2005, 09:45
You can get a domain cheaply at http://www.123-reg.co.uk/ It's usually best to get them with a parking company, as it is easier to move your site, rather than trying to get the host to move the domain.

Email me Merl, and I sort out the templates for you.

Merlin
16th March 2005, 13:48
Thanks guys....

Phil - Thanks for that link....However looked too bohemian for me..........a magician and all....:yikes:

Keith - I tried to register and buy with two UK based companies last night......and they refused my business....:yikes:.....

The one mentioned by BiGC - wrote this.......

¨ Dear Alan

Thank you for contacting us. Unfortunately the reason that the order process
will not accept your phone number is it is not a valid uk number. We are a UK
based company and can only take custom from within the uk. Therefore you must
have a valid uk address and telephone number to sign up with us.

If you have any further questions do not hesitate to contact us.

Kind regards
michael jordan

Technical Support
1&1 Internet Ltd.
..................................

Anyway, I dont want a .co.uk domain......as I feel , rightly or wrongly that it will restrict my business in the USA, and possibly Australia....:yikes:.......Not keen on a .com either.......cause I want to come across as not a 100% profit making company(if you get my drift)....:yikes:......

The alternative is org (I think).....

So - this morning I purchased a domain........and a hosting package......(hope I have done the right thing).....with Bravenet.......At least they accepted my credit card payment - and didnt mind the fact that I live in Brazil....:yikes:

12 months hosting.......and a domain name - paradisetravel.org - cost me $US 83......

The services and tools etc seem OK....(but anything would seem OK to me in this sphere)..:yikes:.....

I realise that I realise ought to have got everything ready before going ahead with a domain etc......but whats 83 dollars for a year....:laugh.........I have given myself 1 month to get something half decent, or at least acceptable on to the web......

Now the fun begins.....I will e-mail you later Keith....thanks....am way behind with my Chelters studying and bets........:yikes:

ADIPaul
17th March 2005, 12:35
Hi Merlin,

I have just acquired DreamweaverMX 2004 Studio web design software. I'm looking for a project to practice on, so if you want contact me and I'll have a go at it if you want. You can see my first attempt at a website on my homepage (not done with the latest software) and email me from the link you'll find on there.

Regards,
Paul,

Merlin
17th March 2005, 13:38
Hi Paul,

Thats very kind of you, of course I need all the help I can get.....I have started something which isnt that good (my first ever attempt though)....heres the link - edited out to protect you - not sure if it will work as it is not published yet.........there are scores of errors in it.....but I just wanted to get something done - so that I could move forward with the project......

Going out just now - will e-mail later,

Best regards, Merlin.

plater
17th March 2005, 13:48
That looks like your account ref Merl, I suggest you remove that link

John
17th March 2005, 13:59
Done. :) I think you posted your account link Merl, I have now removed it for you.

vegyjones
17th March 2005, 14:05
You're in for it now John...

wait till Merl gets home :yikes:

Can you let us know your address, we'll send some flowers :laugh

GlosRFC
17th March 2005, 15:17
If you need some Flash stuff, give me a shout.

John
17th March 2005, 15:19
If you need some Flash stuff, give me a shout.
I envy you!

I'm finding it hard learning ActionScript. I'm no programmer. :(

GlosRFC
17th March 2005, 15:30
That's strange. I must have one of those really obtuse logical minds as it's crystal clear to me. I think what people find hardest about AS is the concept of the timeline. Unlike a normal programming language that usually resides in one place, AS can be applied to different parts of the timeline, e.g. added to movieclips, buttons, etc., and the instructions can alter the progress of the timeline by moving the playhead forwards, backwards, or making it stop. This makes it quite difficult to follow the flow of any AS project. Other than that, AS is very similar to other languages - just give me a shout if there's anything that you don't understand.

Just splashed out on a new graphic tablet today for my Flash work. Only £25 for an A4 monster from Aldi :D

John
17th March 2005, 15:53
Yeah, it's not that hard to grasp in terms of understanding what does what, it's just I'm not very technical/logically minded... I'm more of an artist... a thinker... if you get me. Never really been great at programming, it has taken me quite a while to pick up languages that I have learnt but I've got there in the end. AS is gonna be a struggle but worth it. :)

GlosRFC
17th March 2005, 16:02
Trust me, it's definitely worth persevering with. I'd advise anyone just starting out to begin with Flash 5 if possible. Not only is AS1.0 easier to wrap your head around that AS2.0 but the design screen is less cluttered.
If you're an artist/designer, then Flash is tailor-made for you. There's no reason why you can't use Flash to do quick vector-based images, rather than some of the more traditional drawing packages, and they can always be exported as gif's for web use. I find there are things I can draw in Flash much easier than in Coreldraw for instance. Instead of messing about with nodes, I find it more intuitive to use the shape principle employed by Flash. And there's no reason why you should need to touch AS at all if you want to produce simple animations.

Sent you some reference material that might be useful.

John
17th March 2005, 16:09
Cheers Glos... much appreciated.

It never really occurred to me to use Flash for static graphics, but now you mention it, it makes sense to try that out. Usually I use a program called DrawPlus made by Serif, which is very good.

Sorry for highjacking your thread Merl.

GlosRFC
17th March 2005, 16:18
If anyone's in doubt about the capabilities of Flash purely as a drawing package, they need to take a look at this:

http://dreammania.net/test/realisme/static.php

No actionscript, no tweening, not even any animation. Just a simple (?) picture illustrating what can be achieved with the standard Flash drawing tools and a few gradient fills.

e55exboi
17th March 2005, 17:51
Glos do you make living from racing? Cos ya know everything! :yikes: :) (that's not in sarcastic offensive tone, but in an :butthead: licking, alot of what Keith gets tone :D )

GlosRFC
17th March 2005, 18:22
It might look to you like I know everything...but I assure you I don't. And my :butthead: remains virgin territory so a little less licking if you don't mind!

e55exboi
17th March 2005, 18:31
:laugh So modest :hearty :yikes:

ADIPaul
17th March 2005, 19:44
WOW... sounds like you guys are way into this stuff. I just wanted to be able to throw some websites together for the average person/small business. I got Dreamweaver with Flash and all the bits, but all I've done so far is throw a front page up and dabbled with a bit of HTML ... CSS style sheets are next to sort out methinks.

For what it's worth, my view is that its possible to design some very technically advanced effects and gizmos these days, but when it comes down to it, the average person is looking for clarity and a lot of bells and whistles clanking about in the background are irritating and distracting. I just wanna design some attractive, clean, and clear sites. I'm all for good artwork though, just can't do it myself!

GlosRFC
17th March 2005, 19:54
Here's an impressive clean and clear site for you :D

http://www.pi.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/adipaul.html

I agree that clarity rules and I try, wherever possible, not to fall into the trap of adding non-relevant sounds and images. However, sound does play a key part in attracting as many people as it puts off. Horses for courses I suppose.

I'm in the process of rebuilding my entire site but feel free to check out the old one if you want some inspiration.

Merlin
17th March 2005, 20:12
Thanks Plater and John........for removing that link..........:yikes:..........although, when I tried it this morning it didnt work.......but as you rightly said......some dishonest smart ass may have tried to do something with it...:yikes:

Thanks for the offer of help Glos....will no doubt call on your skills at some point.......thanks.......

Thanks to everyone - Vegy an all......:laugh

Win2Win
17th March 2005, 21:17
I've put the templates on the server Merlin, if you email me, I'll send the download link.

Even if you don't use them, you still learn something of how they are put together, or just nick a few bits off each.

Merlin
17th March 2005, 23:52
::swear ::swear ::swear ::swear ::swear Keitho....:

ADIPaul
18th March 2005, 00:43
Hey Glos, that's a clean site - or at least it was after I dusted off my monitor screen. I thought the ant crawling up it was a neat touch... 'til I discovered it was a real one :)

Looked at your site and some of those tricks are very neat indeed. I'm thinking of using my software to put a few example web pages up and see what I can do with it. I have a couple of business ideas that I want to try and to be able to build a professional looking site is crucial to my plans.

Only just installed the software last night, so a steep learning curve in front of me and the chance to have a go at Merlin's 'real' subject seemed an opportunity.

My homepage was done with MS Publisher (only works with iexplorer @ 1024x768) and since then I played around with Frontpage. Many have advised me to learn coding first, but I thought I'd go with Dreamweaver Studio and try to combine that with learning something about coding as I go along.

As you say, horses for courses, and the sound of my V12 engine revving at full song on my Daimler site is tempting me, but the police siren in the background spoils the effect :-O

Cheers,
Paul.

John
18th March 2005, 02:50
I see Merlin bypassed the swear filter again. :D

Good luck Paul, if you need any help giz a shout. :wink

Merlin
19th March 2005, 01:08
:laugh:laugh:laugh

Hi,

I have started messing about with ideas.....and am using a template wizard(for obvious reasons):laugh...have put some pages up......however, only the front page is important to me at this point......But. for starters the two boxes on the bottom, I know are crap ......What’s new ? and We have 10 free placements to give away!

Because of the restrictions in using a wizard......it is only practice for me really......but if you have a minute have a look at this link....and give me the bad news......ideas etc......I apreciate the time anyone gives to looking at this ,

Link edited out

Cheers guys and gals, Merlin.

Merlin
19th March 2005, 01:10
shavings - the link requires a password......:yikes:.......thats the end of that then.....for now.......:laugh

Of course I realise it works for me, because of cookies....I think...:yikes:

John
19th March 2005, 02:24
Hi Merlin, I've edited out the link again because it points to the same page that was posted up the other day to your account. Do you have an INDEX.HTML page? As this is where your homepage should point to... :)

Merlin
19th March 2005, 02:41
Sure John.....but as yet....it is not available on-line.......the host company said it can take up to 72 hours to filter through to ¨all the servers¨...I think they mentioned DNS....

Same goes for my e-mail accounts with the host.....I am not recieving e-mails yet...but strangely I can send them......:yikes:

The site is....

paradisetravel.org

When it eventually comes on line.....I have uploaded the home page - but it doesnt show....:yikes:

John
19th March 2005, 02:43
No worries Merl. :) Yeah, it can take up to 72 hours to go online. Think of the DNS bit as the internet updating its database of websites.

Looking forward to seeing the site. :)

Merlin
22nd March 2005, 19:51
What a fiasco......the reason my site is not on-line is because the Domain name is registered to someone else..............:yikes:..........

I have had to choose another Domain name.......

So I went for - volunteerbrazil.com - I may regret that name change.......because I was set on paradisetravel......

But I will get used to it I suppose, and it is more relevant to the product....:yikes:

Merlin
23rd March 2005, 19:02
They have sorted out my hosting package and Domain name now, at last.......

According to whois.....the Domain name paradisetravel was registered the same day that I registered....(with a different hosting company though)........:yikes:

However - my new Domain is ... - volunteerbrazil.com - completely registered this time(just checked)......for my inconvenuence they added 1 year of hosting onto my package.....so I got 2 years for the price of 1...:laugh

This was probably due to the rather straight e-mail which I sent........which bypassed all of their swear filters....:laugh

samantha1303
23rd March 2005, 19:12
Hi Merlin,
I cant help you with the technical info but I can help you with the business side of things ,if you set up on your own or with friends or something and give ordinary everyday people the opportunity to do it, (make them pay for their own flights,transfers and pay a minimum cost for accommodation) you will have volunteers coming out of your ears.
I mentioned it before on this site the prices these companies charge for you to volunteer your help is ridiculous.
There are lots of genuine volunteers out here who just cant afford to pay silly prices.

Merlin
23rd March 2005, 19:29
Thanks Sam - great stuff....this is one of the reasons why I am doing this (there are others of course)......

The thread you refer to - I think I replied to it....about 2 months ago I think.......

Once everything is up and running I will let you know....

Win2Win
23rd March 2005, 21:44
I'm sure we would all volunteer Vegy for any missions into the Columbian jungle :)

Merlin
24th March 2005, 21:55
I know its crap....at the mo.......but any website gurus out there......take a look at this - and see if you think the general idea will work.....:yikes:

Its a bit of a mess at the mo....coz I came out of the wizard, and I am trying to find my way around without it...:yikes:..... I will go slowly, slowly.....very slowly....Given myself 1 month to get it decent....

www.volunteerbrazil.com

ALL FEEDBACK AND HELP WELCOME......yikes:

markwales
24th March 2005, 23:23
Feedback

Good
Size of the website title on the page
slogan 'set yourself free'
Links don't change colour after you've clicked on them

Things I would consider changing
The main page is a different colour to the rest of the site
The pictures need condensing and sharpened
There is a need to scroll right to reach the far right of the page, I would try to make it all fit on one page.
I personally would go for a plain white background in the main info area of the pages for a business site.
缯DIV> showing under the title

Other
Some text missing from the 'In one year our volunteers have....' section....it seems to move around a bit
An inch gap of light blue between the links and the main info area.

A VERY good start for a novice Merl....it took me 2 months to get a homepage online!! :laugh

If you need any ideas or info, just yell as there's a chunk of web coding ability on the forum.

Cracking start, work to do, but we all know you're more than capable !! :wink

GlosRFC
25th March 2005, 01:17
A good start there Merlin.

First snag I saw is that the navigation buttons across the top don't line up correctly on my 19" monitor. I suspect this might be something to do with BORDER-RIGHT: style tag you've used. They're fine up until Group Travel (although that one does bleed out of the available browser space but then the next five don't align properly underneath. Why Volunteer is lined up on the next row directly underneath Adventure Travel followed by Brazil Info and then Brazil Forum is off the screen. Contact Us and Travel Shop are then aligned to the left on the third row.

The Foundation button is also vertically bigger than the other buttons.

As Mark says, the jpgs need a bit of work. I suspect that they're been enlarged to fit either the dimensions you've expressed in your HTML code, or you've enlarged smaller pictures. I'd either consider alternative photo's of the size/dimensions you require or else use the original smaller ones.

The vertical yellow bar on the right is off-putting. Ideally your navigation bar should butt up against the right margin. I tend to agree with Mark's view about the colour scheme although I understand why you've chosen those colours. Unfortunately, the national colours of Brazil are probably the worse two you could've chosen to use from an aesthetic viewpoint. Blue text on yellow is probably the second most contrasting colour combo's after black on yellow. The human eye also finds it more difficult to distinguish between blue shades than any other with the exception of red. For some reason you've gone for a more orangey-yellow colour as your background. I'd suggest changing it to standard yellow FFFF00 or perhaps a more subtle shade like FFFF66. The later option will also allow you to mute the blue text slightly from Royal Blue 0000FF to Light Blue 3399FF or Light Bright Blue 0066FF.

On the subject of a navigation bar, a casual user would automatically assume that the text in the right-hand blue block is for navigating. Especially as it's underlined. The same goes for the underlined text in the main body of the page. Users will expect any underlined text to be a link.

Seriously, do reconsider the font you've used. Comic Sans is fine for printing but, on the web, its use singles a site out as "amateur" no matter how professional the design behind it. Also remember that most Mac users (and quite a few Windows users) probably won't have that font installed so it'll default to their standard font anyway. The easiest way around this is to stick to the standard fonts for your text and embed unusual fonts into your graphics.
If you do want to consider different fonts for your buttons then check out www.fontsnthings.com or www.acidfonts.com

You might want to think about putting the contact footer into the blue area at the bottom of the page rather than having it in a stand-alone blue box. That way, you can utilise all of the yellow area as an inline frame should you wish. And slap a date and a copyright symbol © (can usually be produced by holding the ALT key and tapping 0169 on your number keypad). By doing so you're stating that the information is yours in the event of a dispute.

Is there a reason why the remaining pages have got a completely different colour scheme from the main page? Ideally you should be looking to create a complete "look and feel" that extends across the entire site which would further enhance the professionalism.

The rollover buttons on the remaining pages are much better the text-based ones on the main page so I'd consider using them there too, although all of them resize automatically whenever the browser window is resized. That throws out the layout if you're not careful. My advice would be to use two graphics that swap when the user rolls over them. Dreamweaver (and most reasonable WYSIWYG editors) are able to add the javascript to your HTML page automatically if you go down this road.

As Mark says though it's a great start so I hope all this feedback isn't seen as negative. I'm sure if you ask nicely there are lots of people here that can rustle up some good graphics for you to use too such as navigation buttons and a logo. Keep plugging away at it.

Merlin
25th March 2005, 03:30
Mark and Glos,

Thank you very much for the feedback....I really apreciate it - thank you.....

As you know (and can see too).....I am a complete beginner at this......but I will see how far I can get with it.......

Part of my problem is I keep changing things.....then cant figure out what I did....and you know what happens from there....You end up with something far removed from what you started with.....:yikes:

Colours are my main problem at the mo I think(in terms of deciding what to run with).....and you have both pointed that out......:yikes:.........

Cheers, Merl.

Win2Win
25th March 2005, 08:24
You've just discovered the basic rule in coding web pages; "It's a pain in the :butthead: "

If you go here http://scriptlance.com/webmasters/

You can actually get people to do you top class banners/logos for around $10. In fact they will even code a whole site for around $100. You put up the basic version as you have done, and tell them you just want it similar, but more professional. They all bid against each other. Obviously Asian programmers are much cheaper to use than Western, and you can see by the bids the way the rip-off West works.

Good first go though, you've already taken 99.9% of my customers away to work on a local cross border opium trail :yikes:

sparkyminer
25th March 2005, 11:04
Part of my problem is I keep changing things.....then cant figure out what I did....and you know what happens from there....You end up with something far removed from what you started with.....:yikes:

Cheers, Merl.
Merl, I know absolutely nuffink about this web designing malarkey, I do, however, know that after years of setting machinery, switchgear and PLC programs up, before you change owt, write the original settings down, it seems an obvious statement but it don't half help when you try and change something back to the original a day later. It can be a pain in the :butthead: to do, but it's woth it. Cut and paste works well if it pastes ok into some sort of understandable text. (Is understandable a word? :geek ) Anyway I hope I'm not telling my granny how to suck eggs. Best of luck.
P.S. The site looked ok to me! :yikes:

Merlin
25th March 2005, 14:01
Thanks Boss........fancy the Sea Horse Project......:laugh......

Your right of course Spark........Wish I had done IT now......and not Philosophy.....:yikes:

Thanks guys...

Merlin
27th March 2005, 01:17
You can actually get people to do you top class banners/logos for around $10. In fact they will even code a whole site for around $100. You put up the basic version as you have done, and tell them you just want it similar, but more professional. They all bid against each other. Obviously Asian programmers are much cheaper to use than Western, and you can see by the bids the way the rip-off West works.

you've already taken 99.9% of my customers away to work on a local cross border opium trail :yikes:

Decided to go this route Keith - thanks.......will get the general layout prepared..........add my content.........then will almost certainly need to ¨professionalise¨ it with finishing touches......:yikes:

Work on a local cross border opium trail:yikes:.........Gives a new meaning to the ¨The Poppy Appeal¨ :laugh

Win2Win
27th March 2005, 08:28
I used to help with the poppy appeal. Half for them, half me for me!! They're dead, I'm still a living war pensioner, whats the problem? :laugh

samantha1303
5th April 2005, 19:26
Hi Merl hows this going, I just tried clicking on a couple of the links but nothing happened, are you still working at it?

Merlin
6th April 2005, 14:21
Hi Sam,

I wouldnt say working on it....:yikes: struggling with it is more like it....:laugh

I am at present looking for a suitable template which I can use for the whole site.....Only thing is I keep changing my mind..........I have 3 weeks left of my stated 1 month target to get something workable and acceptable up and running.......not panicking yet.........I am trying to fit this project around everything else - where sods law has ensured that I am busier than usual.......

As a note I have several pages completed , however, I havent linked them yet to the Main Page.......

Merl.