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gogga
1st July 2005, 11:11
1 JULY: cArried over from June:

UK QUALIFIERS: (Day 36) - Points profit + 1304.90 ... SR 59/146
( Numbers in brackets are the bettie prices at 11.15)

2.05 San - Out After Dark...£5..non qualifier <2/1...(1.84)
2.30 Wol - Kildonian Castle..£5 * 5.80 = up
3.05 Wol - Rezzago..won..Non Qualifier...<2/1
4.25 San - I'm So Lucky...1st....£10 * 2.30 = 23....+13
4.50 Wol - Hills Spitfire...non qualifier<2/1
5.00 San - Moon Emperor..2.50 ... (4.50) = unplaced
7.00 Hay - Mikao ..1st....non qualifier under 2/1
9.00 Hay - Society Music.1st......5..* 3.45 = 17.25...+12.25

gogga
1st July 2005, 21:34
UK QUALIFIERS: (Day 36) - Points profit + 1322.65 ... SR 59/146...2 from 4....+17.75

gogga
2nd July 2005, 13:47
UK QUALIFIERS: (Day 37) - Points profit + 1322.65 ... SR 61/150
(number in brackets are betfair prices at 13.45)
2.15 Lei - Song Huntress ...£ 2.5 non qualifier <2/1....(1.72)
2.35 San - Momtic .2nd....2.5 *2.18 = 5.45...+2.95
2.45 Lei - Bens Georgie.... 2.5 * (2.26)=up
2.50 Hay - Camrose..... 5 * ( 3.10) = up
3.20 Lei - Lucky Red Pepper..... 10 * (2.50)
3.30 Hay - Sentiero Rosso ...20 (4.30) = up
3.55 Lei - Sirce ...2nd .....40 * 2.20 = 88.............+48

gogga
2nd July 2005, 16:09
UK QUALIFIERS: (Day 37) - Points profit + 1336.10 ... SR 63/156...2 from ...+13.45

gogga
4th July 2005, 10:56
UK QUALIFIERS: (Day 38) - Points profit + 1336.10 ... SR 63/156
( Numbers in brackets are the bettie prices at 11.00)

3.30 Muss - Patricia Philomena..2nd....£2.5 * 2.06 = 5.15...+2.65
3.45 Bath - Master Cobbler ...2.5 * 2.82 = up
4.15 Bath - Cape Unknown....5 * 2.28 =
4.45 Bath Sweetest revenge ..1st...10 * 3.40 = 34.00....+24
5.00 Muss - Forest Viking....non qualifier...<2/1
7.05 Win - Courageously....3rd....2.5 * 2.22 = 5.55 ........+ 3.05
7.25 Ripon - Quote Unquote.....non qualifier <2/1
8.25 Ripon - Tyrone Sam....2.5 * 6.00= up
8.35 Win - Almost Innocent ....1st....5 * 2.28 = 11.40.....+ 6.4

gogga
4th July 2005, 21:22
UK QUALIFIERS: (Day 38) - Points profit + 1362.20 ... SR 63/156...4 from 7...+26.10

gogga
5th July 2005, 12:15
UK QUALIFIERS: (Day 39) - Points profit + 1362.20 ... SR 65/163

1.20 New - Presumptive...up.....£2.5 (2.26)
1.55 New - STretworh Prince ...4th..5 *3.3= 16.5..........+11.5
3.20 pont - Fantasy Believer....3rd....2.5 * 2.4 = 6........+3.5
4.45 New - Top the Charts....2.5 * 2.2 = up
5.00 Pont - Acurzio ...non qualifier <2/1...(1.87)
7.10 Utt - The Mighty Sparrow.....2.5 * 2.32 =up
7.40 Utt - Captain Cloudy....non runner
8.10 Utt - College City..1st..non qualifier <2/1...5 * 1.71
8.20 Wol - Tresor Secret...1st... 5 * 3.85 = 19.25....+14.25
9.10 Utt - Spirit of Trenby....2.5 * 2.04 =

gogga
5th July 2005, 22:44
UK QUALIFIERS: (Day 39) - Points profit + 1381.45 ... SR 68/170...3 from 7 ...+19.25

gogga
5th July 2005, 23:17
UK QUALIFIERS: (Day 40) - Points profit + 1381.45 ... SR 68/170
( Numbers in brackets are the bettie prices at 13.35)
4.25 Catt - Howards princess £5 * (3.15) = up
5.40 Ling - Velvet Waters....10 <2/1 before race non qualifier
6.30 Car - Gifted Flame (1.69) <2/1 non qualifier
6.40 Wor - Rash moment ....10 * 2.04 (18.28 bettie) = up
8.15 Wor - Saorsie...20 (2.80)
8.45 Wor - Billy Ballbreaker....40 * 2.08 =

craghopper
6th July 2005, 13:01
Haven't looked in for a while but glad to see you're still going strong, mate.

Congrats on another excellent profit (albeit with the dreaded increasing stakes - aaah!!).

Could I just ask a couple of questions:

Do you still use the 9 runners or more filter and does this apply to actual starters or just declared runners?

Does the 2/1 minimum filter refer to the Betfair win price of the selection? If so is there a minimum place price under which you wouldn't go (if you know what I mean!)?

Also what has been your highest stake so far?

cheers,

craggy

gogga
6th July 2005, 13:37
Thanks mate. Still used the declared 9 horses or al least 3 places filter. The 2/1 minimum filter refers to betfair place odds. I decided to use 2/1 as a minimum because if a selection is 2/1 on bettie you get your stake back £2 plus profit of £2.

This helps to make a clear profit because the increasing stake can eat up profit. If you want to get the stakes down a bit I suggest that you can use 1.80 - 1.90 as a cut off price. All depends how much profit you wanna make I suppose. I have noticed before that if a selection is under 2/1 that they tend to be unplaced most of the times anyway. I was quite surprised the last few days to see some of these actually go and win the race at some very nice prices.

gogga
6th July 2005, 21:15
UK QUALIFIERS: (Day 40) - Points profit + 1306.45 ... SR 68/174...0 from 4 down 75

gogga
7th July 2005, 17:34
UK QUALIFIERS: (Day 41) - Points profit + 1306.45 ... SR 68/174

Overslept this morning and had to rush for work...posting anyway....epsom selections not included.

1.45 Folke - Woolfall Blue....2nd....non qualifier < 2/1
3.25 Folke - Lysanders quest....80..up
4.00 Folke - stargem.....2nd...160 * 2.00 = 320 ....+160
4.25 War - Nina Fontenail....placed..non qualifier <2/1
8.15 Don -Yankee Geaorge....1st...non qualifier < 2/1
9.15 Don - Banjo Patterson....non runner

gogga
7th July 2005, 20:37
UK QUALIFIERS: (Day 41) - Points profit + 1386.45 ... SR 68/174...1 from 2...+80

sparkyminer
7th July 2005, 21:32
Are you actually putting real money on these Gogga?

gogga
7th July 2005, 21:52
Yes I am but I face a few problems:
1. I can't follow the system on days I work due to security filters at school. So can
only do it over weekends and days not teaching.
2. Also on a trial....first want to see how the system is progressing....looks very good
at the moment.
3. Following at reduced stakes but I am struggling with reduced stakes on bettie. Big
C gave me some advice but I just can't get the small stakes match. A message
comes up every time ..minimum stake £2.

I will give it another 2 weeks and then will start a bank and follow the system the way I am posting it.

sparkyminer
7th July 2005, 22:14
To get round the minimum £2 stakes for backing.
Place your £2 bet at 1000, it wont get taken, unless the horse is trading @ 1000 :rolleyes:
When the bet comes back unmatched, alter your stake to £2 + whatever your stake is. i.e. for 50p. Alter stake to £2.50 and resubmit @ 1000.
When it comes back as unmatched again. Cancel the £2 stake and alter the odds on the 50p bet to what you req'.
I hope this makes sense. It's like the opposite of laying for <£2 stake. :)

gogga
7th July 2005, 22:18
UK QUALIFIERS: (Day 42) - Points profit + 1386.45 ... SR 69/176...
2.00 York - Dame De Noche...£2.5...up
2.35 York - Zhitomer...<2/1 ...non qualifier
2.45 Ling - Norcroft.....5....up
3.05 York - Come on Jonny....10...up
3.40 York - La Cucaracha...20 * 2.28 = 45.6.....+25.6
7.30 Ches - Pivotal's Princess...<2/1 ...non qualifier
7.45 Chep - The Gaikwar...2.5 * 2.18 = 5.45....+2.95
8.15 Chep - Will He Wish....2.5....up
8.30 Ches - Charles Darwin....5
9.15 Chep - Madam Caversfield.....10

gogga
7th July 2005, 22:21
Thanks ...I think I misunderstood Big C's post...

gogga
8th July 2005, 22:19
UK QUALIFIERS: (Day 42) - Points profit + 1380 ... SR 71/184...2 from 8...down 6.45

gogga
9th July 2005, 11:30
UK QUALIFIERS: (Day 43) - Points profit + 1380 ... SR 71/184

1.30 Ling - Inchpast....£20
2.30 Ling - Figaro flyer...3rd....40 * 2.16 = 86.40......+46.4
2.40 York - Currency...1st....2.5 * 3.75 = 9.37....+6.87
3.15 Nott - Speciosa......2.5 * 2.60 = up
3.35 Ling - Curtain Bluff.....3rd....5 * 2.36 = 11.80......+6.8
4.00 Ches - El Chaperral....2.5 * 3.35 = up
4.45 Nott - Viable....5 * 3.20 = up
5.10 Ches - Tokekwana....10...up
6.55 Ham - Royal windmill...20...up
8.05 Sal - Goodwood Spirit....40 *2.04 = up
8.25 Ham - Hula Ballew..2nd...80 *2.04 = 163.20..............+83.20
8.35 Sal - Aoninch......2nd.....2.50 * 2.10 =5.25.........+2.75

gogga
9th July 2005, 20:46
Todays results:
Made up for the 6.45 points lost yesterday....worked pretty well today.
UK QUALIFIERS: (Day 43) - Points profit + 1429.62 ... SR 76/196....5 from 12...+49.62

gogga
10th July 2005, 11:20
UK QUALIFIERS: (Day 45) - Points profit + 1429.62 ... SR 76/196....
2.00 Strat - Storm Clear....2.5 *2.00 = up
2.10 Hay - Joyeaux.....Non Runner
2.20 Perth - Buttress (1.51)....<2/1 ...non qualifier
3.10 Hay - Certain Justice ....5 * (2.18) = up
3.30 Strat - Escompteur ....2nd...10 * 2.42 = 24.20....= +14.20
4.00 Strat - Geniune Article .....under 2/1..non qualifier..(1.80)
4.20 Perth - Nowator ....non qualifier...<2/1...(1.58)
4.30 Strat - Billy Ballbreaker ...2.5....(3.25)
4.40 Hay - My Legal Eagle (3.80)....5
4.50 Perth - Clear Dawn (3.40)....10
5.20 Perth - Constable Burton (1.34)....under 2/1 non qualifier

gogga
10th July 2005, 17:21
UK QUALIFIERS: (Day 45) - Points profit + 1418.82 ..SR 77/202...1 from 6 ...down 10.8

gogga
11th July 2005, 20:48
UK QUALIFIERS: (Day 46) - Points profit + 1418.82 ..SR 77/202
3.45 Bev - Jeep Star...£20...if 3 places...non qualifier
4.30 Brighton - £20...Temper Tantrum...up

gogga
12th July 2005, 21:37
UK QUALIFIERS: (Day 47) - Points profit + 1398.82 ..SR 77/203
2.20 Ling - Trapain....<2/1 non runner £40
3.00 Catt - Regency red...3rd...2.00 * 40 = 80 ......+ 40
3.20 Ling - Moonbird...2.5 up
3.50 Ling - Langford...2nd...5 * 2 = 10 .......+5
4.40 Utt - Festive Chimes...1 st.<2/1 ..non qualifier
6.50 Hay - Farnborough...2.5...up
7.05 Wor - Indian Beat....5...up
7.35 Wor - Nazimabad..1st 3/1..10 * 2.22 = 22.20 ....+12.20
8.10 Wor - Tinstre....2.5...up
8.40 Wor - Tudor King....5...up
8.55 Hay - Del Mar Sunset..1st..7/1...10 * 2.7 = 27....+17

gogga
13th July 2005, 21:03
UK QUALIFIERS: (Day 47) - Points profit + 1455.52 ..SR 81/212 (38.20%).....4 from 9 ... +56.70

sparkyminer
13th July 2005, 21:08
Keep it up Gogga mate, I'm really enjoying this thread.

gogga
13th July 2005, 21:09
UK QUALIFIERS: (Day 48) - Points profit + 1455.52 ..SR 81/212

2.30 Car - Parisienne Gale...£2.50
2.40 lei - Bermuda Beauty
3.00 Car - Star Trooper
3.35 Car - Carnacrack
4.40 Car - Neckar Valley
4.50 Lei - Linda Green
6.55 Eps = Norcroft
8.40 Don = Roodeye
9.10 Don - Glencairn Star

gogga
13th July 2005, 21:13
Thanks Sparky!! Just wish I could do these selections everyday, cos can't log onto gaming related websites at school....but wow holiday is coming up....a whole six weeks...ooohhhh...

sparkyminer
13th July 2005, 21:18
Thanks Sparky!! Just wish I could do these selections everyday, cos can't log onto gaming related websites at school....but wow holiday is coming up....a whole six weeks...ooohhhh...
Get the kids to put them on for you. :wiggle: :D

gogga
13th July 2005, 23:33
Get the kids to put them on for you. :wiggle: :D

They will probably know how to sidestep the filters anyway... :yikes:

gogga
14th July 2005, 13:12
UK QUALIFIERS: (Day 48) - Points profit + 1455.52 ..SR 81/212

2.30 Car - Parisienne Gale..3rd...£2.50 *2.88 = 7.20 ....+4.70
2.40 lei - Bermuda Beauty...2.50 * 2.58 = up
3.00 Car - Star Trooper....5 * 2.14 = up
3.35 Car - Carnacrack...1st 9/2....10 * 2.20 = 22......+12
4.40 Car - Neckar Valley....2.5 * 2.00 (matched 15.47) = up
4.50 Lei - Linda Green....5 * 3.25 = up
6.55 Eps = Norcroft.....10 * 2.22 =
8.40 Don = 1st....6/1...Roodeye....20 * 2.82 = 56.40.................+36.40
9.10 Don - Glencairn Star....2.50 * 2.84 =

gogga
14th July 2005, 13:17
Yoohoo...I have placed a successful 10 pence :yikes: bet on the first qualifier on bettie :D I did say I do them at reduced stakes...10p, 25p, 50p etc

Thanks for the advice guys (BigC and Sparky) on how to beat the £2 min stake on bettie :clp :clp

gogga
14th July 2005, 21:25
UK QUALIFIERS: (Day 48) - Points profit + 1481.12 ..SR 81/212....3 from 9...+25.60

sparkyminer
14th July 2005, 21:29
I did say I do them at reduced stakes...10p, 25p, 50p etc


It's only a question of scaling mate. :D

gogga
14th July 2005, 21:40
It's only a question of scaling mate. :D

Well said!!

gogga
15th July 2005, 00:10
UK QUALIFIERS: (Day 49) - Points profit + 1481.12 ..SR 81/212
(a lot of selections today...though some of them might not make the 2/1 bettie qualifying minimum stake)
1.30 war - Chatshow...£5 * 2.80 = up
2.00 War - Johnny The Fish....1st..15/8...10 * (1.42) = non qualifier
2.20 South - Good Heart..1st.. 13/2..10 * 2.82 = 28.20....+18.20
2.55 South - High Gear....2.50 * 2.00(time 14.47) = up
3.15 Car - Trick Cyclist .....1st...9/2....5 * 2.02 = 10.10....+5.10
3.25 South - College City....1st...13/2....2.5 * 2.42 = 6.05....+3.55
3.35 War - pillars of Wisdom ....(1.61)....non qualifier
4.40 War - Gimasha .....1st....7/4...(1.75)....<2/1 non qualifier
4.50 Car - Toss The Caber...2.5 *2.02 = up
5.00 South - Vivante......2nd.....5 * 2.24 = 11.2.....+6.2
5.55 New - Jackie Kielly....2.5...non qualifier..<2/1
7.15 Ham Senor Bond.....1st...3/1....2.5..non qualifier <2/1
7.35 ponte - Whinhill House....2.5 *2 (matched 19.23) = up
8.00 New - Bayeux De Moi.....2nd...5 * 3.9 = 19.5..........+14.5
8.20 Ham - Selective....2.5 * 2.12 = up
9.00 New - fabrian...3rd...5 *2.5 = 12.5............+7.5
9.10 Ponte - Mugeba.....2.5

gogga
15th July 2005, 15:41
This system is throwing up winners today :D :D :D Maybe I should investigate it for win bets as well :yikes: Maybe a nice sensible double up plan :yikes: Ooo :rolleyes: :)

2.00 War - Johnny The Fish....1st..15/8
2.20 South - Good Heart..1st.. 13/2
3.15 Car - Trick Cyclist .....1st...9/2
3.25 South - College City....1st...13/2
4.40 War - Gimasha .....1st....7/4
7.15 Ham Senor Bond.....1st...3/1

gogga
15th July 2005, 21:15
UK QUALIFIERS: (Day 49) - Points profit + 1518.37 ..SR 87/224...6 from 12...+37.25

gogga
16th July 2005, 09:31
UK QUALIFIERS: (Day 50) - Points profit + 1518.37 ..SR 87/224

2.10 MR - Gone Too Far....5 * 4.5 = up
2.50 NewB - Ace of hearts...up...10 * 1.8 non qualifier <2/1
2.55 Ripon - First Among Equals....non runner
3.15 MR - Fiery piece....10 * 2.72 = up
4.00 NewB - Council's opinion....20 *2 (matched 15.35) =
4.20 MR - Zaffre....<2/1 non qualifier
4.30 NewB - Eisteddfod....non runner
4.35 Ripon - Premier prospect....40....<2/1 ...non qualifier
4.50 MR - Pillar of Fire......non runner
6.25 Ling - Bloodstocktv......40 * 2.02 = up
7.25 Ling - Simplify....2nd...80 * 2 (matched19.24) = 160............+80
7.40 Hay - Dixieanna......2.5 * 2.32 = up
8.55 Ling - Freewheelin.......5 * 2.78 =

gogga
16th July 2005, 21:25
UK QUALIFIERS: (Day 50) - Points profit + 1515.87 ..SR 88/231....1 from7 ..down - 2.5

gogga
17th July 2005, 10:27
UK QUALIFIERS: (Day 51) - Points profit + 1515.87 ..SR 88/231
2.00 NA - Red Chief ....10....non runner
3.00 Na - Dawton.....10 ...<2/1 ...non qualifier
3.10 strat - Lord 'N' Master...10...2.6 = up
3.40 Strat - Altitude Dancer....20 * 2.28 = 45.60 .......+25.60
4.20 Red - Mission Afirmed....2.50 * 2(matched 16.09) =
4.30 NA - Chief Predator.....5 * 2.08 =
4.40 Strat - Dash For Cash....under 2/1 ...NQ
4.50 Red - Zalima........under 2/1....NQ
5.20 Red - Silver Dane....10 * 2.12 = 21.20...............+11.20

gogga
17th July 2005, 17:30
UK QUALIFIERS: (Day 51) - Points profit + 1535.17 ..SR 90/236....2 from 5...+19.3

Stats:
Original starting bank was a modest £200...increase of 767%. Did I calculate it correctly?? Strike rate 38%

I think when this reaches 1600 it is time to increase :yikes: the stake a bit. What do you guys think? Maybe starting at £5?

gogga
18th July 2005, 16:58
UK QUALIFIERS: (Day 52) - Points profit + 1535.17 ..SR 90/236
Sorry forgot to post these this morning... :geek :anger :butthead:
3.15 Ayr - Mecca's Mate...1st...2.5 *2 = 5 ......+2.5
4.45 Ayr - Val De Maal....2.5...up
5.15 Bton - Muara......5....<2/1 NQ
6.25 Win - Expensive.....5 *2.1 = up
7.25 Win - Sir Edward Elgar.....3rd..10 * 2 = 20 ............+10
8.35 Bev - Outside Half.....2.5 * 2.88 = up
8.55 Win - Aoninch.....5 * 2.32 = 11.6.............+6.6

gogga
18th July 2005, 21:08
UK QUALIFIERS: (Day 52) - Points profit + 1544.27 ..SR 93/242...3 from 6...+9.10

gogga
18th July 2005, 23:25
UK QUALIFIERS: (Day 53) - Points profit + 1544.27 ..SR 93/242

2.15 Ayr - High Curragh.....1st..9/2...2.50....1.5...<2/1 ....NQ
2.45 Ayr - Lord Chamberlain....2.5* 4.3 = up
3.00 Yar - Show me the Lolly......1st...4/1...5 *2 = 10....+5
3.45 Ayr - African Gift.....1st...14/1...2.5 * 4.4 = 11....=8.5
4.15 Ayr - Chaka zulu....1st.....6/1....2.5 * 2.54 = 6.35.....+3.85
4.45 Ayr - Bonne De Fleur....2 * 2.34 = up
5.00 Yar - Regency Red.....5 * 2.02 =

gogga
19th July 2005, 15:58
Three first out of 4 selections so far...not a bad start :wiggle:
2.15 Ayr - High Curragh.....1st..9/2 :D
3.00 Yar - Show me the Lolly......1st...4/1 :D
3.45 Ayr - African Gift.....1st...14/1 :D :D :D

gogga
19th July 2005, 16:23
and another one chaka Zulu....6/1

gogga
19th July 2005, 17:19
UK QUALIFIERS: (Day 53) - Points profit + 1548.62 ..SR 93/242....3 from 6....+4.35

gogga
19th July 2005, 23:42
UK QUALIFIERS: (Day 54) - Points profit + 1548.62 ..SR 93/242
2.00 Ling - Shogun Prince....1 st 3/1...£10 * 2.08 = 20.80....+10.8
2.40 Wor - Don & Gerry...3rd....2.5 * 2 (matched) = 5......+2.5
3.00 Ling - Perfect story......3rd....2.5 * 3.5 = 8.75.....+6.25
3.20 Catt - Frascati....2.5 * 3.55 = up
3.40 Wor - Alikat....2nd....5 * 3.3 = 16.5......+11.5
4.00 Ling - Riquewihr....2.5 * 2.5 =
4.10 Catt - Cannon Fire......<2/1...non qualifier
4.50 catt - Obe One.....5 *2.4 = up
5.10 Wor - Mr Jawbreaker.....3rd....10 *2 = 20

Day Stats : 5 from 8 ....+41.05

Night Racing:I have decided to split day and night racing. I will run seperate stats for these but also include a daily total
6.10 San - Iffy...1st...7/2.....2.5 * 2 = 5......+2.5
6.45 naas - Whatadifference....1st...11/4....2.5 * 2 =5.....+2.5
6.55 Lei - Unique Moment....<2/1...NQ
7.25 Lei - Barnbrook Empire....2.5...lost
8.30 lei - Zayn Zen....3rd....5 * 2 = 10..........+5
8.45 san - Simpsons Mount....3rd ...2.5 * 3 = 7.5.......+5
9.00 Lei - Pagan quest.....2nd.....2.5 * 2.48 = 6.2.....+3.7

Profit Seeker
20th July 2005, 09:06
Hi there Gogga. I've only just read this thread, it looks very interesting!
I've got a few quries however. Firstly, how exactly does the staking work? I know it's explained earlier in the thread, so if say you don't profit on a particular day, you increase stakes by so much. So if you then have a few winners during that day, are your stakes still at the increased amount until you resume back to normal stakes the folowing day? Also, what do these figures and the * mean? 3.45 Ayr - African Gift.....1st...14/1...2.5 * 4.4 = 11....=8.5 and lastly how do you select your horses? It's fine if you'd rather not say :)

Profit Seeker
20th July 2005, 10:19
After taking a closer look, I realised you're doubling up on each selection. You had a £200 starting bank yet after a few days you had to stake £300, would this not have broke the bank?

gogga
20th July 2005, 13:42
Thanks mate...for the interest. When I do these trials I also state a hypothetical bank which could go into zero...cos I don't really bet on them. I only start betting after 30 days...its just to give me a feel for the system before I start to wager my hard earned cash.

Explanation of symbols and figures:

(2.20 Yar- Biggles Eye) ...win 11/1........5 * 4 = 20 .......+15
[I]time, course, and horse........horse first at a sp of 11/1... 5(proposed stake multiplied by betfair odds......+15 points profit after stake subtracted

Profit Seeker
20th July 2005, 13:46
Thanks for that. The doubling does make great profits but it's bound to go badly wrong at some point, have you calculated how things would have gone staking the way you do the South African ones? I mean if you really wanted to use it, you couldn't always do it race by race, so day by day staking but not doubling may work out. Just a thought....

gogga
20th July 2005, 13:55
I dropped the south african selections because the odds was to small a profit on the south african tote..sometimes 1.30 return for a place.

You could try a stepping plan on these but I didn't do it so far...the idea was to make at least a decent profit.....it hasn't gone wrong yet the last month, but I suppose anything is possible.....so I follow a reduced staking plan (scaled down a bit). I use 10p, 25p, 50p, £1, £2 etc.

I also use the same staking plan at the moment on my trainer/jockey combo place bets and it went well yesterday. I suppose the staking plan is up to the individual...the plan I suggest is merely experimental at the moment.....but I don't think level stakes will work.

selections is done on topspeed of a horse, form, rank in proposed starting price( as the bookmakers work out the chance of every horse to win and not to be placed). There must be at least 9 horses or 3 places.

gogga
20th July 2005, 15:16
Night racing updated

gogga
20th July 2005, 17:29
UK QUALIFIERS: (Day 54) - Points profit + 1605.87 ..SR 98/250
Day Stats : 5 from 8 ....+41.05
Evening Stats: 5 from 6.....+16.2

gogga
20th July 2005, 21:15
System worked very well today....it reached 1600 points :yikes: :yikes: :wiggle: :D :D so I have decided to double the starting bet to 5 :yikes: :yikes: :censored:
Please bear in mind that this system is still under test. If you want to follow it...I suggest a sensible scaling down of the double up staking plan :D Ooo . Off to the pub to go and celebrate. :wiggle: :fizz :wiggle:

gogga
21st July 2005, 00:17
UK QUALIFIERS: (Day 55) - Points profit + 1605.87 ..SR 98/250
2.20 Bath - Noble Nova.....5 ...uup
2.35 Utt - Lady lambrini....<2/1....non qualifier (NQ)
3.15 San - Confidential lady......1st..10 *2 = 20.....+10
3.25 Bath - One Upmanship.....5....up
3.50 San - Regents Secret....<2/1...NQ
4.15 Utt - Festive Chimes.....<2/1....NQ
5.10 Bath - Della Salute....3rd.....10 * 2 = 20.....+10
5.20 Utt - Bill's echo...2nd.....5 * 2(matched 17.19) = 10....+5

Night racing:
6.15 Folke - High Rhythm.....5....under 2/1 NQ
7.00 Don - Mull of Dubai....<2/1.....NQ
7.30 Don - Nautical.....5 * 2 = 10..........+5
8.45 Folke - Taragan....5 *2.16 = up
9.00 Don - Bold Haze...3rd.....10 * 3.7 = 37.........+27

gogga
21st July 2005, 17:29
UK QUALIFIERS: (Day 55) - Points profit + 1647.87 ..SR 102/258
Day: 3 from 5....+15
Night: 2 from 3 ....+27

Profit Seeker
21st July 2005, 17:34
I don't know if your doing them Gogga but Della Salute and Bobs Echo were nowhere near 2.0 at anytime from the last race to their off. Both well under, least when I looked.

gogga
21st July 2005, 18:17
Hiya mate I put my bet in and left it unmatched...mine got matched at £2 just before the off

gogga
21st July 2005, 21:17
UK QUALIFIERS: (Day 56) - Points profit + 1647.87 ..SR 102/258 (39.5 %)
Strike rate from Saturday till today is 52%

2.25 Wol - Prince Vettori.....5...<2/1....NQ
2.55 wol - In the Fountain....5...up
3.20 new - Currency....10 ...up
3.30 wol - Tagula Bay....20...under 2/1 ...NQ
3.50 new - Echelon.....1st..20 ...under 2/1 ...<2/1 ....non qualifier
4.00 Wol - Campbelltown.......placed...way under 2/1 ...NQ
4.10 york - King Alfie.....20 * still unmatched...1.7...<2/1 ...non qualifier
4.35 wol - Kindlelight Debut...non runner

Night Racing:
6.15 Newm - Clueless....20 under 2/1...NQ
7.45 newm - Imperial Echo....20 * 2.66 =
8.30 Chep - Summer recluse....< 2/1...non qualifier
8.45 newm - Gallego....40 *2.34 = up
9.00 Chep - Parkside pursuit...1st...80 * <2/1 NQ

Profit Seeker
22nd July 2005, 15:37
I got Prince Vettori at 2.38, that's 6 losers in a row for me, can afford one more loser.. Ooo :)

gogga
22nd July 2005, 16:05
I can't understand it...my bet for £2 on Prince Vettori didn't get matched. Neither did the following:
.30 wol - Tagula Bay
3.50 new - Echelon
4.00 Wol - Campbelltown

Profit Seeker
22nd July 2005, 16:10
No, I didn't get those matched either. It seems the under 2.0 are winning though, maybe an idea to back them?

gogga
22nd July 2005, 16:13
Unsure about that one....sometimes long losing runs on winners ...sometimes 4 in a day

gogga
22nd July 2005, 16:21
UK QUALIFIERS: (Day 56) - Points profit + 1572.87 ..SR 102/260

Day: 0 from 2....down -15
Night:0 from 2...down -60

gogga
23rd July 2005, 10:27
UK QUALIFIERS: (Day 57) - Points profit + 1572.87 ..SR 102/262

1.00 nem - Rising Shadow....80 * 2.12 = 169.60....+89.6
2.10 nem - Bluebok....5 * 22.32 =
2.30 nott - Fair Rosamund....2nd....<2/1...NQ
2.55 York - La Cucuracha......1st....9/2..10 * 2.32 = 23.20....+13.20
3.00 nott - Arabian moon......1st...4/1...5 * 2.22 = 11.1....+6.1
3.45 Neb - Peter Paul Rubens.....4th..5 * 2.3 = 11.5.....+6.5
4.20 Neb - Policy Maker....5 * 10 =
4.45 nott - Shared Dreams.....won..5/6...too short..1.2 @ 16.35...non qualifier
4.55 Neb - Nautical....5 * 2.42 = 12.1.......+7.1
5.15 nott - Fairy monarch.......3rd...5 * 2.8 = 14.....+9

Night:
6.15 Ling - Burford Lass......3rd....5 * 2.8 = 14......+9
6.35 Sal - North Shore....under....2/1...NQ
7.15 Ling - Resplendant Nova....5 * 2 = up
7.35 Sal - Darn Good...10 * 2.6 = up
7.45 Ling - Lizarazu.......1st....20 * 2.18 = 43.60........+23.60
8.05 Sal - Councellor....<2/1...NQ

gogga
23rd July 2005, 13:38
could someone help me out please...just got back from town and forgot to bet on rising shadow, did it make 2/1 on bettie?

Littlegaz
23rd July 2005, 13:47
It did Gogga - matched at 2.12 for me.

gogga
23rd July 2005, 14:45
Thanks mate

Profit Seeker
23rd July 2005, 15:03
I started off with Luna Landing in the 1.55 which went and won, La Cucaracha just won, have you recorded these to level stake wins Gogga?

gogga
23rd July 2005, 15:08
No mate I haven't done any stats on win bets for these...but I have all the stats somewhere.....I will do a spreadsheet next week sometime for win bets ( June & July) and see whats up....if it is doing ok I will post it. Maybe worth while pursueing win bets for the future.

gogga
23rd July 2005, 17:25
UK QUALIFIERS: (Day 57) - Points profit + 1711.97 ..SR 110/274 ( 40.14%)
Day: 6 from 8 .....+121.5 :D :wiggle:
Night: 2 from 4 ....+17.60

Profit Seeker
23rd July 2005, 20:00
Well that's an 11% increase today operating at 0.5%BB. I wonder how long until betfair email saying "Oi, no 1 pence bets allowed!" :laugh

gogga
23rd July 2005, 20:10
I wonder how long until betfair email saying "Oi, no 1 pence bets allowed!" :laugh

Hopefully never! I start my scaled down version at 50p seeing that the SR is up this week....increased my bank with 150%

gogga
24th July 2005, 10:33
UK QUALIFIERS: (Day 57) - Points profit + 1711.97 ..SR 110/274 ( 40.14%)
2.15 newb - katyipour....5....non runner
2.45 newb - woodcote.....5 * 3.3 = up
2.55 newm - gringo.....1st..10 * <2/1...NQ
3.30 newm - pearl king.....10 * <2/1.....NQ
4.05 newm - grecianette....10 * <2/1 NQ
4.55 ponte - holiday camp....<2/1...NQ
5.25 ponte - daybreak dancer.....<2/1...NQ

gogga
24th July 2005, 18:51
UK QUALIFIERS: (Day 57) - Points profit + 1706.97 ..SR 110/274 ...0 from 1 ...-5

gogga
25th July 2005, 10:33
UK QUALIFIERS: (Day 59) - Points profit + 1711.97 ..SR 110/274
2.15 south - gavarnie beau.....3rd...10 <2/1...NQ
3.00 sed - arjay....10....up
4.00 sed - jamaica plane...20 * 2.04 = up
4.30 sed - beaugency...1st...5/2....40 *2 = 80
5.15 - south - babby barry.....3rd....5 * 3.25 = 16.25.....+11.25

Night:
6.15 win - grand entrance....5 ..<2/1 ...NQ
7.30 yar - iced diamond....5 * 2.08 = up
7.45 win rancho cucamongo....10 * 2.46 = up
8.45 win - cameron orchard....20 *

Profit Seeker
25th July 2005, 17:23
I don't know how you got Beaugency matched mate, I was scanning from the race before right to the off, I didn't see better than 1.8 :doh

Jonny2621
25th July 2005, 17:32
i saw it at 2.02 about 10 mins before the off, placed my order and someone took it before i couyld match,( it was probably Gogga :wink ), so it was available mate. Not that it matters i got Baby Barry at 3.15 :)

Profit Seeker
25th July 2005, 17:39
Ye I had a bigger stake on Baby cos I missed Beaugency, got 3.6 :D

gogga
25th July 2005, 17:46
I don't know if I am supposed to do this. If it is illegal...please feel free to edit this post mods.

I have a feeling that you are doubting my honesty and integrity ;fire Profit Seeker, so I copied my transaction records from betfair. If you think I have lied about this bet been settled, here is the proof. By the way it makes me barking mad...if I am suspected of lying ::swear ::swear ;fire If this was not the case then I humbly apologise in advance for my misunderstanding of your post. :wiggle:

(transaction records deleted by Gogga )

As you can see from the above I placed the bet at 16.08 and left it unmatched at £2 odds...I didn't check whether it was matched because I am busy packing for my relocation...betfair settled the bet at 16.50 so it must have been matched.

Profit Seeker
25th July 2005, 17:51
:yikes: Of course I'm not accusing you of lying! I must have either been looking at the wrong horse :geek or not seen when the price rise. I was flicking around alot of different things so I get muddled a times, sorry mate.
Thanks for the tips, another 4% rise today, I won't be doing the evening, getting a right moan at as it is :mover

gogga
25th July 2005, 17:58
No probs mate.. :) .I am a bit under stress Ooo as well and the tempers have been flying in my household :yikes: :fizz :( as I have to reduce 7 years of life and belongings in the UK :yikes: ) to that that can fit into 3 suitcases.. :yikes: :anger . I am knackered , stressed and a bit moody...so please except my humbest of apologies for being in an argumentative mood :) :)

gogga
25th July 2005, 18:02
Glad it worked out well for you there with Babby Barry.... Profit Seeker..... :D :D

We will all get the odds matched at different levels...but I can unfortunately only go by my transactions :yikes: :) Have to get my act together now for the next one 6.15 windsor

gogga
25th July 2005, 18:07
... it was probably Gogga :wink ), so it was available mate. Not that it matters i got Baby Barry at 3.15 :)

err....my gain your lost...your gain :doh Glad it worked...

Profit Seeker
25th July 2005, 18:17
No probs mate, I know how stressful a move is! :rolleyes:

gogga
25th July 2005, 18:34
UK QUALIFIERS: (Day 59) - Points profit + 1738.22 ..SR 112/281

Day: 2 from 4 ....+61.25 :D
night: 0 from 3....-35

gogga
26th July 2005, 09:34
UK QUALIFIERS: (Day 60) - Points profit + 1738.22 ..SR 112/281
2.15 Good - Evaluator.....1st..7/1....40 * 2.9 = 116...............+76
3.10 bev - Baylaw Star....1st...9/2....5 * 2.20 = 11.......+6
3.25 Good - Autumn Glory......up...5...<2/1...NQ
4.00 Good - Waterways.....3rd.....5 * 2.02 = 10.10....+5.10
4.35 Good - Red Damson....5 * 2.58 = up
5.20 Bev - Parkside Pursuit....10 * 2 = up

Profit Seeker
26th July 2005, 15:20
A nice 44/1 win double so far Gogga! :rolleyes:

gogga
26th July 2005, 15:37
A nice 44/1 win double so far Gogga! :rolleyes:

Err...yes.... :yikes: ...should have done it :(, but I have decided the only way forward is to apply strict discipline in the future...(whips and chains... :yikes: ). I have decided to do no more fun bets in the future. :yikes: ..or at least to scale it down to £5 :( a week :D

sparkyminer
26th July 2005, 16:03
you suprise me Gogga. I thought the discipline you applied to this thread, with the selections, record keeping etc, would've taken it out of the fun bets scenario and into a serious system.

Profit Seeker
26th July 2005, 16:12
I decide to wait til the off for Waterways as it was drifting but I went for a place on strike up the band aswell, then as the off approached my pc crashed AGAIN ;fire so I missed Waterways but a bigger place price was on Strike :)

gogga
26th July 2005, 16:12
you suprise me Gogga. I thought the discipline you applied to this thread, with the selections, record keeping etc, would've taken it out of the fun bets scenario and into a serious system.

Oh...I take this system very seriously :yikes: :D ....I don't back on a selection if it is not a £2 minimum qualifier...never ever :D . I was talking about doing doubles and other fun bets...which has cost me dearly :doh ::swear in the past.....so I have decided to stick to my system bets.

Only allow myself to do £5 worh of other fun bets a week..i.e ..horses I fancy in doubles and trebles.

sparkyminer
26th July 2005, 16:17
Sorry mate, I thought you meant your system was a fun bet. :splapme
I've been out for lunch, probably a stella too many. :drnk :D

gogga
26th July 2005, 16:17
I decide to wait til the off for Waterways as it was drifting but I went for a place on strike up the band aswell, then as the off approached my pc crashed AGAIN ;fire so I missed Waterways but a bigger place price was on Strike :)

If a selection is over 2/1...I normally take the prize I can get...I have waited in the past for better prices...but then it has dropped below the one I could get.

gogga
26th July 2005, 16:22
Sorry mate, I thought you meant your system was a fun bet. :splapme
I've been out for lunch, probably a stella too many. :drnk :D

No problems ...Sparky...I need a few Stellas to calm me down :wink ..I have booked my ticket on eurostar for friday to amsterdam..have to much bagage to fly.... I will wipe my bank in excess baggage and have nothing to keep me busy in the dam.

On that note....from friday onwards I will post when I can...have to use internet cafe's and sort myself out in ams before I move onwards to my new country of temporary residence. A pity I can't take my PC with...anybody want to donate :yikes: a laptop :yikes: to the help Gogga survive fund :D :D :D

gogga
26th July 2005, 17:32
UK QUALIFIERS: (Day 60) - Points profit + 1810.32 ..SR 112/281....3 from 5...+72.1

gogga
27th July 2005, 10:02
UK QUALIFIERS: (Day 61) - Points profit + 1810.32 ..SR 115/286
2.05 NewA - native chancer....20...up
2.15 good - race the ace.....NR
2.35 newA - multeen gunner....<2/1...NQ
3.00 muss - titus salt....40
3.25 good - proclamation....1st....80 * 2.08 = 166.40
3.35 muss - bollin billy.....5
4.00 good - kerashan....10
4.35 good - uig....<2/1....NQ
4.45 muss - kyle of lochalsh....20
5.20 muss - ignition.....40
5.45 good - wanchai lad.....<2/1...NQ

night racing:
6.50 Lei - buster hyvonen...80 * 2 = up
7.05 san - saxon lil....160 * 2.28 = 364.80..........+204.80
8.20 lei - tryandstopme...5...up
[COLOR=Magenta]8.35 san - all star...<2/1....non qualifier
8.50 lei - dvinski....10 * 2.06

gogga
27th July 2005, 13:48
I have a 1001 things to do this afternoon and sorting out the last few things....so I have decided to put level stakes on all of the selections...still specifying 2/1 minimum odds for those selections under 2/1. Will just leave them and see later if they get matched.

gogga
27th July 2005, 18:22
Night selections updated
UK QUALIFIERS: (Day 61) - Points profit + 2031.52 ..SR 117/297
Day: 1 from 7 ........+31.40
Night: 1 from 4........+189.80

gogga
28th July 2005, 09:37
UK QUALIFIERS: (Day 62) - Points profit + 2031.52 ..SR 117/297
2.15 good - asawer....20....<2/1......NQ
2.25 strat - leopold.....<2/1....NQ
2.50 good - mecca's mate....20 ....up
3.00 strat - sterling guarantee....<2/1....NQ
3.10 car - instructor...1st....40 * 2 = 80......+40
3.25 good - lost soldier three....5 * 2 = up
3.45 car - paris heights.....10 * 2.4 =
4.00 good - comic strip....<2/1....NQ
4.10 strat - room to room gold....nr
4.20 car - mount hillaby....20.....<2/1...NQ
4.35 good - viking spirit.....nr
4.45 strat - college city.....<2/1 ....NQ

gogga
28th July 2005, 16:43
UK QUALIFIERS: (Day 62) - Points profit + 2021.52 ..SR 118/302....1 from 5...down -10

Off to the Netherlands....tomorrow and my PC is goin to a friend.

Last post for a few days.....take care :) ...be good :yikes: and WIN :D

sparkyminer
28th July 2005, 19:37
Best of luck mate. Bon Voyage, Godspeed and all that malarkey. :)

gogga
31st July 2005, 11:25
:yikes: GREETIMGS FROM A WET AND WEEPING AMSTERDAM
UK QUALIFIERS: (Day 63) - Points profit + 2021.52 ..SR 118/302....
2.00 New Loyal Royal....20....2nd...<2/1...NQ
2.10 MR Simon seat....20
2.20 Ches The History man.....NR
2.40 MR Romany Prince...placed...<2/1...NQ
3.05 New Simpsons Mount
3.15 MR Raise A McGreggor
3.25 Ches Acomb
3.40 New Green noon
4.00 Ches Thorny Mandate...2nd
4.15 New Lay A whisper
4.25 MR Room toRoom gold
4.55 New Prince Vector...3nd...<2/1....NQ
5.15 New Kintbury Cross....<2/1 ...NQ
5.25 MR Lago D Oro....1st

gogga
1st August 2005, 09:52
Could someone please let me know if this summary is more or less correct...Did any of these became non qualifiers? For my stats I will work out selections of those placed at 2/1.

gogga
1st August 2005, 10:22
I unfortunately have no idea if some of yesterdays became non qualifiers..didn't back them as I had to sort out other things...couldn't spend the afternoon at the internet shop...the only ones I could fathom out was the favourites...suppose no way they would reach 2/1. So I have decided to start from fresh and best to ignore yesterdays results. If someone followed them yesterday and could be so kind to update them for me then I could update the stats later.

UK QUALIFIERS: (Day 63) - Points profit + 2021.52 ..SR 118/302....

2.00 Na - Lucky Do...1st....5 * 2.44 = 12.20....+7.20
2.30 na - Southern Down.....2nd....5 * <2/1 = NQ
3.00 na - Gemini Dancer...way under <2/1 ...NQ
3.20 rip - Rainbow Racing....5...up
4.50 rip - George Stubbs....10..<2/1...NQ

Night racing:
6.05 win - Jeanmaire...10 * 2 = 20 .....+10
6.20 car - we'll meet again....5
6.35 win - Farnborough....10 * 2.24 = 22.40....+12.4
6.50 car - Dornhill.....5 *2.20 = 11.....+6
7.05 win - Sweetest Revenge....5 *2.12 = 10.60.....+5.6
7.20 car - Golda Seek....<2/1...NQ
7.35 win - Nanton....5 * 2.12 = 10.6....+5.60
8.05 win - Sir Edward elgar....<2/1...NQ
8.35 win - Extremely Rare....5 * 2.20 = 11.....+6

Profit Seeker
1st August 2005, 15:42
I think they were pretty much all qualifiers mate. I stopped though as I had 8 losers in a row.

gogga
3rd August 2005, 09:30
UK QUALIFIERS: (Day 63) - Points profit + 2064.32 ..SR 125/311....7 from 9