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Merlin
31st August 2005, 05:03
3.05 Newton Abbot – SCALLOWAY at 5/4
Merlin
31st August 2005, 05:25
Forgot to mention - dont go betting these.......have no stats or idea how it will pan out......I only thought it up last night.........:yikes:
The basic idea is to be on an in form horse who is not being asked to do something he/she hasnt done before , with a jockey on who knows the animal - and is forecast at odds against.......anything near a 40% strike , I will be well pleased....
MarcusMel
31st August 2005, 12:10
How do you define 'in form horse'? I might be able to put some stats together for you from Jan 1st 05.
Merlin
31st August 2005, 12:15
Thanks MM....
A horse that won last time out........within 30 days..............in the same or higher class than todays race:yikes:
MarcusMel
31st August 2005, 13:04
Ok I will get to work on sorting out some results for you tonight after the racing.
MarcusMel
31st August 2005, 13:07
Hmmm Class might be a bit tricky though, prize money and Class seem to be very different things and they have redefined race classes too ;fire.
Merlin
1st September 2005, 00:13
STATS
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SELECTIONS 1
WINNERS 0
LSP -1
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THURSDAYS QUALIFIER(S)
3.30 CARL - QUANTICA @ 9/2
4.00 CARL - HULA BALLEW @ 11/4
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Strictly speaking I am only looking for 1 qualifier per day.........my filter makes HULA BALLEW the bet....but will keep a record of all qualifiers....
Roberto
1st September 2005, 00:57
I see you're not put off by "Merlin's Profit" running in the same race as Hula Ballew? Ooo
This has the makings of a very interesting thread ... watching with interest, here. Good luck!
Merlin
1st September 2005, 01:01
I will be betting Merlins Roberto.......:yikes:........owes me nothing......:yikes:
Got to be onest with these system/method selections.......even if you dont fancy the bugger................:laugh
Merlin
1st September 2005, 20:20
Looks the beginnings of a cracking Lay System here - with 2 favourites getting stuffed.........:yikes:
Merlin
2nd September 2005, 01:51
FRIDAY QUALIFIERS
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3.25 - JACKIE KIELY
3.45 – OUNINPOHJA
The selection is OUNINPOHA
frontrunner
2nd September 2005, 12:04
Looks an interesting system merlin.......I am laying OUNINPOJA today because all his 4 wins been on left handed tracks :wink
Frontrunner
:spinning
MarcusMel
2nd September 2005, 12:16
Can I ask why you rejected these selections?
Mersey Sound Newmarket.July 04:50
My Girl Pearl Chepstow 05:00
Or I have winner last time out distance winner less than 30 days
Al Alba Chepstow 3:55
Ceiriog Valley Haydock 5:10
Loop The Loup Newmarket.July 4:50
Night Storm Chepstow 4:30
Merlin
2nd September 2005, 12:50
Sure MM....
Can I ask why you rejected these selections?
Mersey Sound Newmarket.July 04:50 (didnt win last time out)
My Girl Pearl Chepstow 05:00 (didnt win last time out)
Or I have winner last time out distance winner less than 30 days
Al Alba Chepstow 3:55 (not favourite)
Ceiriog Valley Haydock 5:10 (not favourite)
Loop The Loup Newmarket.July 4:50 (not favourite)
Night Storm Chepstow 4:30 (not favourite)
MM, the horse (in my flawed) logic must have won its last race, and be Racing Post Forecast favourite........
Good Luck Front......
MarcusMel
2nd September 2005, 12:55
Ahhhh Thank you - Now I can refine the selection criteria.
The 7pound claimer on Jackie Kiely is worrying as they have never won on the horse.
MarcusMel
2nd September 2005, 13:52
Ok Merl past data still only brings the SR to 27% (29% if you get rid of claiming jockies).
So your hoping for a 10% shift by having the jocky having rode the horse before:yikes:
57% of non claiming jockies make it to place the horse in the first three. HELLO PLACE LAY SYSTEM :D
Merlin
2nd September 2005, 14:10
Thanks MM.......
When I suggested 40% I was being an optimistic dreamer .....:yikes:
I had no idea of the stats.........I just planned to post the selections and see which way the wind was blowing after about 100 live selections.....:yikes:
Could be a good lay system if they continue to get beat........in essence , although prima facie the horse is in form, and has a chance at the distance etc......They may well turn out to be bad value favourites.......:yikes:
Anything else you turn up would be most welcome......
Merlin
2nd September 2005, 16:18
A winner.......dont know whether to rejoice or what.....:laugh........
Merlin
2nd September 2005, 16:48
Stats
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Selections 3
Winners 1
Lsp + 0.25
frontrunner
2nd September 2005, 20:26
Well done Merlin, Take a bow I've finished licking my wounds
Frontrunner
:spinning
Merlin
2nd September 2005, 21:44
I never rejoice at someone losing mate(unless ita a bookie).....but always admire the courage of someone putting their neck on the block..............
Merlin
2nd September 2005, 21:46
besides.....you had valid reasons for laying this....and as I understand it , the horse hung badly left in the closing stages too.....
Merlin
2nd September 2005, 23:25
Saturday
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QUALIFIERS
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1.00 FOLK - ETCHING - 9/2
9.30 WOLV - REGAL DREAM - 7/2
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Selection is REGAL DREAM
Out of all the races available tommorow.........the selection is in the last race of the day at Woolybags......:yikes:
Merlin
4th September 2005, 13:39
SELECTION LOST YESTERDAY
SUNDAY
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QUALIFIERS
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FLYING KEY 2.10
moscow blue - 2.20
friendly request - 4.05
SELECTION IS:
2.10 - FLYING KEY
Merlin
4th September 2005, 22:48
Stats
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Selections 5
Winners 1 (9/4)
LSP - 1.75
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STATS ALL QUALIFIERS
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Selections 8
Winners 1 (9/4)
LSP - 4.75
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Merlin
5th September 2005, 13:16
MONDAY
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QUALIFIERS
4.00 -FAIRGAME MAN AT 7/1
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Just the 1 qualifier, so I guess thats the selection...
Merlin
5th September 2005, 17:04
Stats
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Selections 6
Winners 1 (9/4)
LSP - 2.75
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STATS ALL QUALIFIERS
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Selections 9
Winners 1 (9/4)
LSP - 5.75
This is looking great for lays - and their all favourites (forcast favs)
Merlin
6th September 2005, 13:26
No Qualifiers Tuesday
Merlin
7th September 2005, 10:46
No SELECTIONS WEDNESDAY....
Merlin
8th September 2005, 13:54
Thursday
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5.05 - Pintle
4.20 - Love Angel
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Selection Is : Pintle
Merlin
9th September 2005, 01:21
PINTLE WAS A NON RUNNER and LOVE ANGEL won at 6/4
Merlin
9th September 2005, 05:10
FRIDAY
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3.20 – PALACE EPISODE
5.15 – FEARLESS MEL
2 QUALIFIERS but the selection is PALACE EPISODE
Merlin
9th September 2005, 17:50
PALACE EPISODE DIDNT GO - FEARLESS MEL won at 5/2
Merlin
10th September 2005, 01:29
Saturday
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5.15 – Holbeck Ghyll
Merlin
13th September 2005, 02:24
Stats
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Selections 6
Winners 1 (9/4)
LSP - 2.75
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STATS ALL QUALIFIERS
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Selections 12
Winners 3 (9/4)(6/4)(5/2)
LSP - 2.75 POINTS
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If anyone wants to monitor these , please feel free to do so.....its only a trial with no money down..:yikes:
My Initial RULES
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1) MUST HAVE WON LAST TIME OUT - WITHIN 30 DAYS
2) MUST HAVE WON IN TODAYS CLASS/GRADE
3) TODAYS JOCK MUST HAVE WON ON THE HORSE
4) MUST BE A DISTANCE WINNER
5) MUST BE CLEAR ODDS-AGAINST FAVOURITE IN THE RACING POST TISSUE
6) IF MULTIPLE SELECTIONS ON THE DAY USE AN ELIMINATOR FOR JUST THE ONE SELECTION – I was running with the selection with the highest official rating, although I have no idea if this was the best method to use.
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