Racing terms question

[wb]

anyone know where i can get a list of explaining different types of race, in (order of importance etc.) for both NH and Flat

also, a list of race definitions

eg. 'A steeplechace is...........' etc

thanks

[GlosRFC]

I've never heard of a steeplechace...but as soon as I do, I'll let you know :D

This might help with the flat classifications though
http://www.win2win.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=26988

[Win2Win]

:laugh

[wb]

sorry :blac4







:D :D thanks for the link

[wb]

any National Hunt?

[GlosRFC]

Okay, here's a list of terms that might be useful:

Bumper - A flat race for jump horses, in which they gain racing experience before going hurdling or chasing. The name comes from the ungainly riding styles or amateur jockeys! Horses must not have previously run under Flat rules.
Claimer - Race where a horse is handicapped by its trainer, with the weight relating to the amount of money the horse would cost should someone "claim" it afterwards. This requires a balancing act between making the horse carrying too much weight to win the race or allowing it to be taken away too cheaply.
Conditional - The jump equivalent of an apprentice race.
Handicap - After a horse has raced a few times and been assessed a horse is awarded a handicap mark that allows it to be compared to all other horses under that code (horses can have different handicap marks for turf, all-weather, chase and hurdles races). A horse's handicap figure is then adjusted by the official handicappers judged on its subsequent racing performances.
The mark a horse receives relates to the weight in carries in handicap races. So when a horse runs in a handicap, this figure will come into operation. If a colt is allotted a mark of 83 (130 is the mark of a top-class horse on the flat, over jumps it is nearer 180) and he wins a race, the handicapper may give him a 3lb rise meaning next time he runs his mark is 86 and so on. This is only a theoretical mark and does not relate to the physical weight a horse carries. The actual weight a horse carries is defined by the horses he races against.
Hunter Chase - A race restricted to horses that have hunted during the present hunting season. Not sure we'll have to many of those in the coming years!
Juvenile - In a flat race this refers to a two-year-old; in jump racing it is a three-year-old who turns four in mid-season on January 1st.
Listed - A race just below group standard but above that of handicap and conditions races.
Maiden - A race for horses that have not won a race and also the name given to all horses without a victory.
Pattern - In order that the best races across the continent do not clash, the various governing bodies of the major European racing nations got together to create the pattern in 1971. The idea was to co-ordinate the racing programme and so give the season a set pattern. Pattern races are categorised as Group Three, Group Two and Group One with the latter being the most important and including races such as the Classics. Races can move up and down the scale judging on the quality of horses winning them. If a race is not producing the quality required then it can be downgraded and vice versa.

[Win2Win]

Banded - Crap :D

[GlosRFC]

Might be worth creating a "sticky" and adding all the terms to it as we define them Keith...what do you think?

[GlosRFC]

Hurdle - not as demanding as a steeplechase as the obstacles consist of hurdles that are a couple of feet lower than the fences on a chase course and the races tend to be 2 to 3 miles with a handful longer than that. Usually used to train horses for steeplechasing.
Steeplechase (or Chase) - race run over approximately 2 to 4 miles. Originally raced over obstacles such as brush fences, stone walls, timber rails, and water jumps but now confined to large fences some of which have ditches and water.
Point-to-point - races held for amateurs on about 120 courses throughout the British Isles. Originally run straight across country (hence the name), these races are now run on oval tracks with built-in fences, often on farmland.

[wb]

thanks everyone.

a sticky would be a good idea

[bigcumba]

Edited Glos' post re hurdle distances - there aren't any NH races less than 2 miles with the exception of the odd bumper... some hurdles are run at over 3 miles, a couple of dozen a year at such a distance... excellent posts so far though Glos - some rep coming your way!

[Win2Win]

Vegy can make it sticky later, he's good at that :yikes:

[wb]

Found this Re: racing terms.

quite handy

http://www.ownaleg.com/terminology.html

[Merlin]

JOCKEY
................
Term used to define a professional holder of a betting exchange account – usually for laying purposes!

STABLE LAY
........................
Slang Term usually used with reference to trainers wife or precocious stable lass.

GELDING
.............
Noun - relating to male stable staff who have been caught humping trainers wife.

COLT
.......
Slang term used to refer to trainers handgun (used for gelding, see above)

JUMPER
.................
Legal definition meaning a jockey who has skipped bail.

VET
......
Person who makes excuse for horse who ran badly.

GROUP ENTRY
.............................
Refers to an organised stable staff orgy.

TONGUE STRAP
..............................
Contraption usually used on stable persons who cant keep their mouth shut refer an upcoming stable gamble.

SELLER
..................
A person empolyed in racing who sets themselves up as a racing tipster.

MAIDEN
................
Term used which usually refers to trainers daughter.

MAIDEN HANDICAP
......................................
Term used which usually refers to trainers very ugly daughter.

PUNTER
..................
A person who thinks they can win money by gambling.

BOOKIE
...........
An expert at fraud.

HANDICAPPER
...................
A hitman, usually under contract to bookie - often kneecapping winning bettors.

JOCKEY CLUB
...........................
A racing term which means a collection of old farts.

BHB
.........
Acronym for the administrators of racing, meaning - BLIND – HELPLESS – BUGGERS –

STAYER
...................
Referring to a long term racing employee.

NON-STAYER
..........................
Referring to a short term racing employee.

A HANDICAP
........................
Usually a stable employee who has one or more limbs missing.

[bigcumba]

:laugh :laugh :laugh brilliant !

[wb]

:D :D great!

[Merlin]

Glad you enjoyed....:laugh....there are a couple more there...

[Merlin]

BETTING SHOP
.....................
Antiquated building for placing bets. Was often operated and owned by people who used the mafia business model.