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jon bon jovi
29th November 2005, 15:07
nothink at all to advertise.here it is.hope you grateful.

RULES:
on any day, select the horse which has the least number of days since it's last win.
if there is more than one qualifier in differnt races on same day they are all bet equally to win.
if there is more than one qualifier in the same race the race will be ignored..

STAKEING:
5pts to on each selection.

PAST RESULTS:
results based on 5pts wins [100 bets]
total stakes:500pts
total returns:759.28pts
PROFIT +259.28pts.
see no advertising.

Past results are no guarantee of future performance of this system

samantha1303
30th November 2005, 13:41
Cat - 2.00 - Comical Errors

jon bon jovi
30th November 2005, 15:17
Cat - 2.00 - Comical Errors

2nd unlucky.

MarcusMel
1st December 2005, 03:57
2:20 Market Rasen Bang And Blame

tovarich
1st December 2005, 09:43
According to MY interpretation of YOUR rules JBJ, shouldn't the selection be COMMANCHE WAR PAINT- 3.10...Win? (7 days) ----- BANG AND BLAME - (9 days) :doh

Win2Win
1st December 2005, 09:56
We already know from past research this system, freely available on Google, isn't profitable. Basically as horses that run in less than 7 days, and especially 4 days, are now well underpriced by bookies.

MarcusMel
1st December 2005, 14:52
Hi Tov - My fault or rather the the way I'm searching for it. In my databases. I don't use proper date format within the databse itself which makes searching dificult.

As I recall this was tested a couple of years ago and worked well for the flat but not for NH.

MarcusMel
1st December 2005, 16:23
P/L +0.875
1 win from 2

MarcusMel
2nd December 2005, 04:19
I Know I got this one right :D but still would like it if someone checked :yikes:
1:20 Tedstale Wolverhampton

I should soon be able to give the results for the last 4 months but it will take the computer a few hours to work them all out. :yikes: :yikes:

Win2Win
2nd December 2005, 09:29
Isn't it time you updated your ZX80 Marcus? :D

tovarich
2nd December 2005, 09:52
Many systems have been built around seven day winners and four day winners over the years, some do well some don't, depends on filters and tweaks I suppose. Everybody tries new twists on old ideas looking for the pot of gold, like "The Goods"?:hearty

MarcusMel
2nd December 2005, 13:35
Isn't it time you updated your ZX80 Marcus? :D

:yikes: Its a colleters clasic :yikes: (Now you tell me the collectors are the from the council refuse department :D.

Re time - I really ought to redesign the data and add in a few indexes to speed things up but I'm still finding out what need to do so the programs are not very effecient.

jon bon jovi
2nd December 2005, 13:48
I Know I got this one right :D but still would like it if someone checked :yikes:
1:20 Tedstale Wolverhampton

I should soon be able to give the results for the last 4 months but it will take the computer a few hours to work them all out. :yikes: :yikes:

Are you just monitoring the system or backing the horse's?

MarcusMel
3rd December 2005, 02:59
P/L -0.125
1 win from 3

Sat 3rd Dec
12:55 Strathtay Sandown Lost
2:05 Crossbow Creek Sandown Lost
3:25 Silver Knight Wetherby Won 3-1

P/L for day +1

2 wins from 6
P/L 0.875

MarcusMel
4th December 2005, 05:43
Sun 4th Dec
1:00 Orchestration Southwell Won 2-1

3 wins from 7
P/L +2.875

MarcusMel
5th December 2005, 15:30
2:50 Bergerac Newcastle Lost

3 wins from 8
P/L +1.875

MarcusMel
6th December 2005, 12:16
12:00 Nan Jan Southwell Lost

3 wins from 9
P/L +0.875

MarcusMel
7th December 2005, 05:53
1:40 Three Ships Lingfield Lost

3 wins from 10
P/L +0.125

MarcusMel
8th December 2005, 13:25
12:40 Night Warrior Ludlow Lost

3 wins from 11
P/L -1.125

(Yes Mathare, was in a hurry last night)

mathare
8th December 2005, 13:27
Shouldn't that be -0.125 now Marcus?

MarcusMel
8th December 2005, 23:58
Off to Cyprus for a week Sat

MattR
9th December 2005, 01:10
So, the horse is called Off To Cyprus and it's running on the 17th? :H11

MarcusMel
9th December 2005, 01:18
Well actually its for the 9th -cant predict that far ahead with this system:D
12:30 Caesarean Hunter Doncaster

MattR
9th December 2005, 01:29
Well actually its for the 9th -cant predict that far ahead with this system:D
12:30 Caesarean Hunter Doncaster

:D


What a name!

tovarich
9th December 2005, 09:34
Enjoy your break, Marcus.

MarcusMel
10th December 2005, 00:22
Thanks - 6.00am leave for airport :yikes:

Hope someone will keep track of this while I'm away. If memory is right this system worked well for the N.H season.

Roberto
10th December 2005, 00:41
The thing that baffles me with this system is why the person who posted it here in the first place chose to refer to it as the "Winner LTO System" at all. Can it be, I ask myself, that he has made the mistake of imagining that "the horse which has the least number of days since its last win" necessarily won LTO?! Actually, even discovering which horse each day has the least number of days since its last win, although clearly possible, is not necessarily quite as easy as one might imagine.

Anyway, as Keith rightly observes above, it isn't profitable now (although allegedly it was once over a run of 100 bets when monitored by Steve Jones on his website).

MarcusMel
10th December 2005, 04:42
Sorry was despirately trying to name it! (My fault) It was taking off CDsystems site which three years? ago Keith trialed it. (have I been here THAT long!!) Like a lot of systems it ran quite successfully for a short period and then went downhill.

I think there are some ideas that if you choose a period of time in the year show themselves to be profitable. So for instance we could say that this systems has now made the required profit for some well defined start date and now we wait until next year and attempt to do the same thing again. We should also have a well defined end date too! After all some things do exhibit a cyclic behavour.

The person who 'found it and posted here' saw the positive figure and thought oh this is easy and 'showed off' his ability to find profitable systems on the net :rolleyes: (youth - definatley wasted on them). Feel free to find its proper name and get it renamed.

Now perhaps someone would like to prove that this system does not work for the begining or middle or end of a racing type season.

MarcusMel
10th December 2005, 04:48
There chaged it to least - sorry for the confusion.

MarcusMel
13th December 2005, 09:17
Oh well. I go on holiday and Hemel Hempstad blows up !!! :yikes:

MarcusMel
20th December 2005, 02:49
Results for December.

01Dec2005 3:10 Comanche War Paint Wincanton Won 15-8
02Dec2005 1:20 Tedstale Wolverhampton Lost
03Dec2005 12:55 Strathtay Sandown Lost
03Dec2005 2:05 Crossbow Creek Sandown Lost(BD)
03Dec2005 2:20 What A Native Fairyhouse Won 2-1
03Dec2005 3:25 Silver Knight Wetherby Won 3-1
04Dec2005 1:00 Orchestration Southwell Won 2-1
05Dec2005 2:50 Bergerac Newcastle Lost
06Dec2005 12:00 Nan Jan Southwell Lost
07Dec2005 1:40 Three Ships Lingfield Lost
08Dec2005 2:10 Millenaire Ludlow Won 7-2
09Dec2005 12:30 Caesarean Hunter Doncaster Won 6-1
10Dec2005 1:45 Desert Quest Doncaster Won 3-1
11Dec2005 3:00 Public Reaction Punchestown Lost
11Dec2005 12:40 Bally Scanlon Cork Won 4-1
12Dec2005 2:50 Jolly Boy Plumpton Won 4-5
13Dec2005 1:50 Joe Jo Star Southwell Lost
14Dec2005 3:10 Caesarean Hunter Bangor Lost
14Dec2005 12:30 Va Vavoom Bangor Lost
15Dec2005 1:00 Trance Southwell Lost
15Dec2005 3:30 Amorist Southwell Won 13-8
16Dec2005 3:50 Western Roots Wolverhampton Lost
16Dec2005 1:30 Jolly Boy Windsor Won 8-11
17Dec2005 1:20 Red Cape Lingfield Lost
17Dec2005 2:25 Hail The Chief Lingfield Lost
18Dec2005 2:30 Preskani Southwell Won 4-5
18Dec2005 1:00 Ardkeel Lass Southwell Lost
19Dec2005 12:45 Snowy Doncaster NR

P/L for December +14.32

andyp
20th December 2005, 10:17
This system is brilliant!! Bring JBJ back :yikes: