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Profit Seeker
10th August 2006, 15:02
Turn on pc today SLOW AS ::swear !!!! Just makes racket after racket and more racket but doesn't produce the goods. Then it tells me the latest microsoft update has finished, the bar stewards think they can download crap onto my pc whenever they feel like it, despite the fact I've disabled this time and time again! How do I stop this? The yellow shield won't even reveal what it's doing for me to cancel! ;fire ;fire

Profit Seeker
10th August 2006, 15:29
I've sorted it njow. Took me an hour to get on line thanks to those ::swear

Win2Win
10th August 2006, 15:45
You just switch it off in the Control Panel :doh

Profit Seeker
13th August 2006, 15:52
Here we go again......AGAIN!!!

A real strange one now, maybe it's a particular virus someone may know of. My connection decides to drop on at a random time, but tells me I'm still on line, only I can't disconnect :doh So a reboot is needed every time, which I've had to do about 5 times today so far!! The only other sympton is that the bottom tray/bar that "start" and other icons sit in, is the usual XP blue colour, but it switches to a sandy yellow as though I've changed the appearance and then it goes back again...this seems to be the point on which my connection's gone strange.

Going to get Panda platinum now, stil one guy does it cheaper than everyone else on ebay £7.99 when others right next to him have it at £27.99, do they think someone wuill actually pay that price instead of the £7.99 :doh

Win2Win
13th August 2006, 16:03
Depends if you want the OEM cheaper version or the full version :)

Why don't you just get a new computer on finance? I mean, you don't have to pay it back do you? :rolleyes:

Profit Seeker
13th August 2006, 16:05
Got to get the defaults removed first :laugh

Didn't know there was a non OEM version?? What's the difference?

Win2Win
13th August 2006, 18:18
I just told you in my last post.....sit up...pay attention.......Full price = Full version.....OEM = Cut down version.

Profit Seeker
13th August 2006, 18:37
Only if you promise to pay attention to the question :rolleyes:

What's the difference?

Anyway, done an on line panda scan amongst many others, no viruses are showing, could spyware or hijack stuff cause this problem?

Win2Win
13th August 2006, 19:29
Anyway, save the money you haven't got. http://www.comodogroup.com/ It's free, rated better than Norton, McAfee, Panda, etc....I use it now. Slick interface, and in my tests picked up more than the above 3.

Profit Seeker
13th August 2006, 19:37
How can they provide a better service and not want money for it??

Win2Win
13th August 2006, 19:44
I provide a BETTER service than any other Filipino site in the UK, and it's FREE.

They make the money out of server security, which I pay for, and the software is a way of spreading the name....same as I use eBooks for.

Profit Seeker
13th August 2006, 19:49
Well that's cocked up already :mover Gave my details to download, they send me activation code yet no AV downloads.

Win2Win
13th August 2006, 19:52
You must have a blocker, just do it again.

TheOldhamWhisper
13th August 2006, 21:18
...Just makes racket after racket and more racket but doesn't produce the goods...

I'd be a little bit concerned about this - it may be a sign that the hard drive is failing. When you get chance, make sure you back up any important files.

It wouldn't do any harm to follow Keith's advice and put another partition on the drive with a 'spare' copy of Windows.

Profit Seeker
13th August 2006, 21:54
A whole seperate harddrive might be best, mine's quite full!

I've got that AV now, got a fairly quick response from support, though the engine initialisation fails and weird errors come up, currently awaiting more support.

Also, the microsoft security centre still says the same old crap "panda av is deactivated" how do I get rid of it saying that and for it to talk about the new AV?

Win2Win
14th August 2006, 09:09
PS, you need to unistall your previous AV before installing the new one or you WILL get errors!!

If you did uninstall, they your XP is very corrupted. Force a full ChkDsk, Windows Explorer>Drive Properties>Tools>Error Checking>Check Now> Tick the two boxes...and fire away....

.....also get a copy of Fixit 4 or 5, and run all the Registery options, and delete any errors.

....then take the cover off your comp, and find out where the noise is from.

Also START>RUN>type MSCONFIG>OK go to STARUP TAB and uncheck anything Panda related.

Go to Windows Explorer>Program Files, and delete and Panda AV directories.


......and if you ever get trips against me again I'll break yer bloody legs :)

Profit Seeker
14th August 2006, 12:17
:hoho: Thought it was highly appropriate myself :)

Of course I uninstalled other AV stuff, it's just my microsoft security centre doesn't agree. :doh

Anyway, the reason the comodo AV didn't work was cos I didn't reboot after getting latest updates :splapme though panda never required this! Also, the full scan is MIIILES slower than panda, took over an hour! However, it did find 2 worms and that backdoor virus thingy, they all seem to lodge in win32sys or whatever it's called. Thing is, they're unrepairable as always, so I've qurantined them, but what does this actually mean? Becuase as far as I know you can't delete the file because the good part of it is needed for the running of the computer, so does qurantining stop the virus actually being a virus yet still allow the good file to operate or which? :confused:

Didn't know that error checking existed!! Thought only disk clean up was possible through accessories. Should I also tick box that compresses disk? I've got 11GB left out of 40GB

Win2Win
14th August 2006, 15:52
Speed of the AV depends on what settings you have the scan on. If Panda missed the trojans & Comodo found them, which is better?

Write the names of the quarintined files, go into Safe Mode, find them, rename them. If your systems messes up, rename them back!!

Don't COMPRESS.

Profit Seeker
14th August 2006, 23:36
Err, riiiight :ooo

I've acquired a backdoor agent B virus removal tool only it won't :censored: find anything. Will it not find it if it's quarantined?

Win2Win
15th August 2006, 08:43
Depends on how the quarantine file is setup, but then again, if they are in there, they can't do anything anyway.

Profit Seeker
15th August 2006, 11:46
So the removal tool doesn't remove anything? Ok :doh

Well then I've no idea what keeps changing my bottom tray to old style yellow for about 3 seconds and buggers up my connection, I've tried AVs which obviously don't do anything so what's the point having one.

Win2Win
15th August 2006, 19:36
AV.......find viruses!!! :doh

Your problem fits the bill of a corrupt XP, you need a Windows fix for that :doh

Profit Seeker
15th August 2006, 22:51
Doesn't sound very ANTI to me, sounds more like EXPOSING virus :doh

I did that disk check thing and had to go out and leave it but just before I went I read something like "replacing damaged clusters" or similar to that. Haven't noticed any change though.

Profit Seeker
15th August 2006, 23:20
My mistake there is a change. Computer's now even slower. Still playing silly buggers too.

So tell me, when an AV finds a virus, does quarantining it stop it doing what it was designed to do?

Win2Win
16th August 2006, 08:36
Yes. That is was quarantine means :doh

A human catches Ebola, you put them in quarantine...it does bugger all to anyone else.

You need a clean install.....simple as....

Profit Seeker
16th August 2006, 11:41
I've got a windows disk but think it's just a recovery one. Do I need to buy windows XP again? I wouldn't know where to start to be honest. Does it mean I would have to reinstall absolutely everything? Internet connection stuff, media player, graphics and sound software? Plus I would want all my txt files, spreadsheets, porn :peeky

Win2Win
16th August 2006, 11:56
You probably need to download a 'backup' copy of Bootable XP :doh

Profit Seeker
16th August 2006, 12:01
Having done a search, it looks way too complicated, think I'll just poke up with the disturbances for now. :rolleyes:

mathare
16th August 2006, 12:02
Why not back up your data and use the recovery CDs to restore the PC back to factory settings?

Profit Seeker
17th August 2006, 11:41
So backing up.... Is it a case of putting everything on CD? Text files, spreadsheets, gigantic microsoft office program with excel in etc? Regarding things like adaware, poker programs, and any other programs downloaded from net, do you just forget about them and download them all again from fresh?

Win2Win
17th August 2006, 11:47
Backup to a rewriteable DVD....if you ain't got one, they are £25...not sure they do them on finance though :rolleyes:

mathare
17th August 2006, 11:48
So backing up.... Is it a case of putting everything on CD? Text files, spreadsheets, gigantic microsoft office program with excel in etc? Regarding things like adaware, poker programs, and any other programs downloaded from net, do you just forget about them and download them all again from fresh?You mean you don't have Office on CD? Tut tut tut. If that is the case copy the setup application to CD.

But yep, all your personal data such as text files, spreadsheets etc. should be burned to CD. And I'd download fresh copies of AdAware etc as you need them. You might want to back up drivers etc.

Of course, restore will take you back in time quite a way so you will need to download things like XP SP2 and various Windows Updates to get your OS back up to date and that can take a fair amount of time.

Profit Seeker
17th August 2006, 23:54
Restore? I thought I was recovering? So let's say I've backed up. Do I just run the recovery cd now? Don't have to wipe anything first?

Win2Win
18th August 2006, 09:19
Glos asked me to passage a message on, can't remember exactly what it was but something about rope or a shotgun! :doh

mathare
18th August 2006, 09:42
Restore? I thought I was recovering? So let's say I've backed up. Do I just run the recovery cd now? Don't have to wipe anything first?Restore, recover - it's all the same. You are restoring your system back to how it was when you first got it. If you're all backed up just boot off the recovery/restore CD and follow the instructions.

Then as it starts to format your drive you'll remember all the things you forgot to back up :splapme :laugh

Win2Win
18th August 2006, 10:07
Restore is using the System Restore :)
Recovery is using the original disks :)

I wouldn't touch anything which reformats, can't you find a 'backup' copy of XP Pro or something, and then just run an upgrade/fix?

Profit Seeker
18th August 2006, 11:30
The book says the disk offers 4 options. Restore windows file system. Recover current windows. Quick restore system. Quick restore system-quick format. Recover windows sounds the most appropriate :confused:

Profit Seeker
18th August 2006, 11:33
Glos asked me to passage a message on, can't remember exactly what it was but something about rope or a shotgun! :doh
You're a bit like my boss. Been doing something so long you automatically think everyone should be as good as you without the need to teach them things ABC. How I didn't get sacked from the :punch2 he received I don't know! :yikes:

mathare
18th August 2006, 11:36
One thing puzzles me PS - if you have a job why do you never seem to be doing it?

Profit Seeker
18th August 2006, 11:44
As was said in a widely debated thread months ago, I do shifts.

vegyjones
18th August 2006, 11:49
What do you shift?

Profit Seeker
18th August 2006, 12:04
People's jaws :)

Win2Win
18th August 2006, 12:18
This one;
Recover current windows

Profit Seeker
18th August 2006, 12:24
Obviously this shouldn't really change the speed of my pc as nothing's being wiped, and my memory isn't being boosted in anyway, so all I'm expecting to do is get rid of these annoying viruses.

mathare
18th August 2006, 12:26
But if it kills unnecessary applications running on startup and generally cleans up you may well see an increase in performance

Win2Win
18th August 2006, 12:44
Also download and run this www.ewido.net (http://www.ewido.net) , best Spyware/Trojan/Malware kit I've come across. Free for 30 days.

tophatter
18th August 2006, 12:57
As was said in a widely debated thread months ago, I do shifts.


I did not know Burger King was open 24 hours now!

No gherkins please on mine please PS :laugh

Win2Win
18th August 2006, 13:04
:laugh

Profit Seeker
18th August 2006, 13:14
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA :hoho: :mover

Profit Seeker
18th August 2006, 21:23
That ewido anti spyware found trojan and virus, sjut had enough and deleted the lot, so we will see if deleting winsys32 stuff does anything! :ooo

Win2Win
18th August 2006, 21:25
Finds things all the others miss that one.

Profit Seeker
20th August 2006, 01:48
Well deleting critical files has done bugger all but restore my system to good health!! Can't be bad :mover

Profit Seeker
31st August 2006, 12:59
If I want to install a new harddrive, is it just a case of rip old one out, after backing up stuff I still want of course, plug new one in, and install absolutely everything? XP, graphics card, sound card, other drivers etc.

Win2Win
31st August 2006, 13:01
Just install the new one with the old one!!

John
31st August 2006, 13:01
I think you also have to recalibrate the jumper settings in the BIOS (don't ask me, I don't know how) :)

mathare
31st August 2006, 13:03
I think you also have to recalibrate the jumper settings in the BIOS (don't ask me, I don't know how) :)You need to set the jumper settings on the drive if you want it as a slave drive

John
31st August 2006, 13:07
Cheers big ears. :)

By the way, in your sig, you're missing an 's' in the word 'issue' :)

mathare
31st August 2006, 13:22
By the way, in your sig, you're missing an 's' in the word 'issue' :)Oh yeah! Better fix that. Ta.

Win2Win
31st August 2006, 13:52
No he isn't!! :doh

Profit Seeker
31st August 2006, 23:32
I see, so there's an extra plug socket for another one, switch all stuff I want across, after of course I've put XP on it which I haven't got yet, then chuck old one away.

Profit Seeker
18th September 2006, 17:57
HDs are cheap as on ebay. I can't see that they have certain specifications or plug or pin types like RAM does so I'm assuming that any HD will fit any pc? :confused:

Win2Win
18th September 2006, 18:12
SATA or IDE....don't buy them off eBay, some are 2nd hand, and iffy warranties. Use www.dabs.com (http://www.dabs.com) .....

Yours will be IDE.

They do not come formatted so you need to do that either with a DOS boot disk & FDISK, or a disk manager software.

Profit Seeker
18th September 2006, 21:04
I could find partitioning and formatting software for free to put on disk couldn't I?

TheOldhamWhisper
18th September 2006, 21:09
Formatting software is part of any operating system.

If you are installing a new OS from scratch, XP or 2000 does not need pre-formatting and anything before this really isn't worth installing!!

You do NOT need to partition a drive unless you have a specific reason to do so (and you probably can't think of one :) )

Win2Win
18th September 2006, 21:52
I never trust Windows to do anything like that. I do all any new disks with Partition Magic. However if you are repartioning disk you are using, don't use PM, it's poo for that....use Acronis.

Profit Seeker
19th September 2006, 15:38
You do NOT need to partition a drive unless you have a specific reason to do so (and you probably can't think of one :) )
Errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrm.....DOH!! :D

Profit Seeker
19th September 2006, 16:31
So what's this SATA/IDE business about then? The really :censored: confusing thing is that IDE drives have ATA somewhere in the spec whatever that means, but it has nothing to do with SATA :doh Anyways, ebuyer look a few quid cheaper than dabs, so the seagate baracouda 80gb for under £30 looks fit.

Win2Win
19th September 2006, 16:33
ATA is not SATA ....don't you know something so simple? :D

Profit Seeker
19th September 2006, 16:38
Yes but you know never know with all the jargon. The seagate barracuda 80gb looks likely, so it better fit. :yikes:

Win2Win
19th September 2006, 16:48
I find matching the letters usually works for me :lickme

Profit Seeker
19th September 2006, 16:59
The seagate barra...hang on a minute, I've posted this twice :splapme :splapme :cuck

Win2Win
19th September 2006, 17:02
Ebuyers delivery terms can be a pain in the ass.....just ordered the Logitech MX3000 keyboard from Amazon, £10 cheaper than everywhere else :)

Profit Seeker
21st September 2006, 15:30
Hopefully this will work. Unplug old HD, put new one in primary slot, old one in slave slot. Fiddle with settings. Install windows Vista supplied by a mate, stick all data across from slave drive, take out slave drive, smash to pieces for satisfaction. :)

Win2Win
21st September 2006, 16:14
I wouldn't bother with Vista.....no drivers for the internet, and it'll be a beta version.

Profit Seeker
21st September 2006, 16:24
My mistake, it's an XP/Vista hybrid! :yikes:

Profit Seeker
27th September 2006, 11:13
Surprise, surprise!! Totally wrong plug fitments, or however you say it!!

Win2Win
27th September 2006, 11:34
Yours should be IDE as I stated above.

Profit Seeker
27th September 2006, 11:45
They've sent me SATA, the :censored: :censored:s! Now I gotta waste moeny sending the :censored: back!!

ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGH!! :smileybigangry: :killer :grrr :Blacklist

Win2Win
27th September 2006, 11:47
SATA or IDE....don't buy them off eBay, some are 2nd hand, and iffy warranties. Use www.dabs.com (http://www.dabs.com) .....

Yours will be IDE.

They do not come formatted so you need to do that either with a DOS boot disk & FDISK, or a disk manager software.

They only send what you order :splapme


You can order an SATA PCI board for about £7 and still use it, as it'll cost you that to send it back. I can hunt one down if you want.

Profit Seeker
27th September 2006, 11:51
That sounds like way too much hassle, I'm already baffled by this jumper block business I'm reading up on. They pick it up for £7.95 plus vat, can't I send it cheaper than that?

Profit Seeker
27th September 2006, 11:55
The invoice syas under stock tpye HDIDE which to me sounds like harddrive IDE. But the drive is an S300 and it's supposed to be PATA. :confused: Why does it say HDIDE if it's SATA?

Win2Win
27th September 2006, 12:02
You plug the card in the PCI slot at the back, and plug the SATA drive into that.....only the same as plugging an IDE in, and leave more expansion.

http://www.dabs.com/productview.aspx?Quicklinx=3Z2L&SearchType=1&SearchTerms=pci+sata&PageMode=3&SearchKey=All&SearchMode=All&NavigationKey=0

Win2Win
27th September 2006, 12:03
That sounds like way too much hassle, I'm already baffled by this jumper block business I'm reading up on. They pick it up for £7.95 plus vat, can't I send it cheaper than that?

You can post it yourself registered Royal Mail, but it may cost more...it may cost less :doh

Win2Win
27th September 2006, 12:05
The invoice syas under stock tpye HDIDE which to me sounds like harddrive IDE. But the drive is an S300 and it's supposed to be PATA. :confused: Why does it say HDIDE if it's SATA?

Totaly different. If you had matched the letter I told you instead of trying to think for yourself, you wouldn't have made a mistake. It also explains everything in the Specs on there site.

Profit Seeker
27th September 2006, 12:11
I did. I selected it from the IDE range only.

Profit Seeker
27th September 2006, 12:13
You plug the card in the PCI slot at the back, and plug the SATA drive into that.....only the same as plugging an IDE in, and leave more expansion.

http://www.dabs.com/productview.aspx?Quicklinx=3Z2L&SearchType=1&SearchTerms=pci+sata&PageMode=3&SearchKey=All&SearchMode=All&NavigationKey=0

The PCI slot is what the IDE cable is plugged into from the HD at present? But I would need a SATA cable too wouldn't I?

Workshy
27th September 2006, 12:14
If they've sent the wrong one, why would you pay to return it?

Win2Win
27th September 2006, 12:16
He's ordered the wrong one, so pays....of course the HDIDE and IDE are listed on the same page, but you then have sub-categories...which he obviously ignored.

PS - IDE's usually plug into the m/b.......if yours is in a PCI it is old. How many PCI slots do you have?

mathare
27th September 2006, 12:16
The PCI slot is what the IDE cable is plugged into from the HD at present? But I would need a SATA cable too wouldn't I?How on earth is the IDE cable plugged into the PCI slot? Why is it not plugged into the IDE connector on the motherboard

Profit Seeker
27th September 2006, 12:47
Yes my IDE looks like it's plugged into motherboard. What I'm saying is I don't really know what a PCI slot is. Whatever converters I use, surely I still need a SATA cbale?

Win2Win
27th September 2006, 12:49
If you bought an OEM version you won't get cables.

Profit Seeker
27th September 2006, 12:49
I'll just send it back in a min on way to work, can't be any more than few quid oign by ebay experience, ordinary first class, that's how they sent it to me.

Win2Win
27th September 2006, 12:50
You have to send it registered as per there instructions, otherwise if it is lost, you get nothing.

Profit Seeker
27th September 2006, 12:59
Well I had to £2 something for delivery.

Profit Seeker
27th September 2006, 13:11
My mistake I paid £3 something. Now I've ordered the right one (I hope) it's twice as heavy hence twice delivery price! :doh

Win2Win
27th September 2006, 13:32
You must have selected Next Day rather than Normal, that is the only way you pay more for delivery.

Do you have a spare IDE cable?

Profit Seeker
27th September 2006, 23:38
What spare lying around or spare inside the pc? The IDE drive is twice the weight nearly 1kg whereas the SATA one was half that.

Win2Win
28th September 2006, 08:55
All PC drives are the same size & weight.

You need something to connect it with! Do you have a spare attachment in the PC, spare power, etc?

Profit Seeker
28th September 2006, 12:21
I didn't see a choice of delivery! You add to basket, goto checkout and the delivery is automatically added to it. And it says delivery charge 0.996kg whereas other one said delivery charge 0.448kg. Anyway today I'm fuming!! It came by Amtrak. I been in all morning, I get no knock on the door, then see a card through the box. They're supposed tp take it back to the depot, but the :censored:'s only gone and left it with the neighbour from hell next door!! He hasn't even filled in the card properly, no date, time, driver, consignment no!! I've phoned them and after 635 rings some dreary old woman says "hellooooo? Ayyymtrayyyyyk!" Had a massive go at them and now wil be lucky if neighbour will admit they've received anything and for time being they're not answering the door!! WHAT :censored: NEXT!!!! ;fire ;fire ;fire

Profit Seeker
28th September 2006, 12:26
Keith, can you find the email address for dabs, cos for they don't give it away so easily?

Win2Win
28th September 2006, 12:32
You should have the email address as it will be on the Return No. they sent you......you did use a Return No. I hope...otherwise they may not accept it, and you have to pay for the return.

AMtrak are liable for leaving it with anyone bar your address.

Profit Seeker
28th September 2006, 12:49
Yes I used a return number thing. Replied to that address now suggesting they use someone else in future!

Win2Win
28th September 2006, 13:01
...and you want them for what exactly? The delivery problem is Amtrack.

Profit Seeker
28th September 2006, 13:09
To ask them about the delivery charges.

Win2Win
28th September 2006, 14:01
Why don;t you just use the online Chat service? :doh

http://www.dabs.com/contenttopic.aspx?ContentType=Help&NavigationKey=4294967285+4294966792&ArticleID=92&SectionName=Managing_your_Order

Profit Seeker
28th September 2006, 22:58
Well it's the right one anyway. There's spare wiring in there all tied up so I would imagine that's for slave drives or whatever. I'm just going to do a straight swap to start with, but when I've got the OS on there, I will put old one in as slave so I can swap stuff over. Would I be able to send my internet connection over as I seem to have mislaid the disk! :splapme

Win2Win
29th September 2006, 08:24
Is your Windows XP bootable from CD? You'll have to make sure the BIOS is set to look for it.




Would I be able to send my internet connection over as I seem to have mislaid the disk

Over where??? Download the driver from the ISP's website, and the manufacturers, burn to CD.

Profit Seeker
29th September 2006, 12:00
Is your Windows XP bootable from CD? You'll have to make sure the BIOS is set to look for it.

Chuff knows. I'll just have to keep consulting my mate's 14 yr old nephew who is a whizz kid, cos once I'm off line I'll be stuck! :rolleyes:

Profit Seeker
29th September 2006, 12:06
Over where??? Download the driver from the ISP's website, and the manufacturers, burn to CD.

I've just found the driver cd for the modem. No idea where to download stuff from plusnet though, give up looking. :geek

Win2Win
29th September 2006, 12:08
Just make sure you have your login username & password for the broadband, or you'll never connect. It's shown in your Plusnet account.

Profit Seeker
30th September 2006, 12:18
Right, tried putting on and it won't comply. Plugged into old HD slot, tried two different jumper settings that only it can be, changed bios boot order to recognising DVD first, but says disk failure, please enter disk and press enter. I enter disk, when it spins I press enter, spins, stops, spins, stops, "disk failure, please enter disk and press enter". The disk is not faulty, it has been used before successfully.

Profit Seeker
30th September 2006, 17:23
Hmm, my own help boy is baffled. The same thing happens without a hardrive plugged in at all as what happens with my new one in. Disk boot failed, put in disk and press enter, then just keeps saying same thing when ding so. :doh I've got BIOS right by just shifting the boot order around haven't I?

TheOldhamWhisper
30th September 2006, 17:30
Boot order should be:

CDRom
Drive 0 (or C)
Any other device

make sure you have the leads on correctly and put the CD and HD on seperate IDE slots.

Might be an idea to try a different ribbon lead too.

Profit Seeker
30th September 2006, 17:58
Tried all of that to no avail. :(

Win2Win
30th September 2006, 18:04
You do know it will not find the disk as it does not exist??

You need to make sure it's been registered in the BIOS first, otherwise it may as well be on Mars.

Profit Seeker
30th September 2006, 18:13
It has found the disk because when all the white writing comes up at the start, it says the disk number under primary position. I've been through every part of bios. Plus primary in bios also has the new drives number ST80... somet or other.

TheOldhamWhisper
30th September 2006, 18:17
Is it finding the CD drive?

Have you got an old CD drive you can swap to see if that's the problem?

Win2Win
30th September 2006, 18:18
Have you got a bootable floppy.....Fdisk it...then format.....I always do it the old way, works best :)

Profit Seeker
30th September 2006, 18:21
It's DVD drive it needs to find, and this is working normally on this OS so that would mean it's ok wouldn't it? It is also listed in the boot order. I can't see why I can't do it with this disk I have, I've been shown it works on two other pcs, both way older than mine! :yikes: Haven't got Fdisk by the way or a floppy.

TheOldhamWhisper
30th September 2006, 18:30
Some DVD drives need specific drivers and will not necessarily work directly from boot up. They don't tell you this as the 'correct' way is to send it back to the manufacturer under warranty and they just ghost the image onto the HD and everything works again.

Try to find a second hand old CD rom (preferrably a 40x speed) and swap it for the DVD drive until you get things working - these are recognised by most BIOS's and allow bootable disks to work.

Profit Seeker
30th September 2006, 18:34
So my bootable DVD should also work in my cd rom?

TheOldhamWhisper
30th September 2006, 18:41
Your XP disk is on a bootable DVD? Are you sure? They are normally CDs.

Profit Seeker
30th September 2006, 18:42
I have an xp/vista hybrid copy.

Win2Win
30th September 2006, 18:43
Never seen one on a DVD before.....probably the problem.

Profit Seeker
30th September 2006, 18:47
As I said, it's been booted up on plenty of others before mine.

Profit Seeker
1st October 2006, 17:09
Some DVD drives need specific drivers and will not necessarily work directly from boot up. They don't tell you this as the 'correct' way is to send it back to the manufacturer under warranty and they just ghost the image onto the HD and everything works again.

Try to find a second hand old CD rom (preferrably a 40x speed) and swap it for the DVD drive until you get things working - these are recognised by most BIOS's and allow bootable disks to work.

This was the closest problem. DVD drive wouldn't work in boot up mode, only on OS. Thanks all for the help...but the questions continue...MWAHAHAHAAA! :dunce

This xp/vista hybrid's da bomb! All drivers are already on it so no need for that trouble. :) Strangely though, my keyboard has swapped some buttons around :doh @ is now " and vice versa and I can't find the pound sign anywhere. :ooo

presto
1st October 2006, 17:11
methinks you have set it to an american keyboard settings.
someone else will be able to tell you how to switch it.

Profit Seeker
1st October 2006, 17:22
I've gone into keyboard in control panel, not much there.

Anyways, got old HD a slave now, but I can't access My Documents, it says access denied :doh

TheOldhamWhisper
1st October 2006, 17:23
It's in Control Panel - Regional Settings (normally)

TheOldhamWhisper
1st October 2006, 17:25
...I can't access My Documents, it says access denied :doh

You need to create a new user with exactly the same name/password as the original one you used when creating the documents.

Profit Seeker
1st October 2006, 18:02
Hmm, I don't want the main account under the same name as my old HD. I just tried putting old one back to primary, moved the files I wanted somewhere else but they haven't shown up. Don't know how to swap programs across either. Will see what google says.

Profit Seeker
1st October 2006, 18:21
Tried creating limited user with same as old name, still access totally denied to my old documents.

TheOldhamWhisper
1st October 2006, 19:27
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/810881

should help solve the problem

Profit Seeker
1st October 2006, 19:36
YOU ARE A BLINDER!! :thumbs

Profit Seeker
1st October 2006, 21:23
ARRRRRGH!!! The same problem is still here!!!

Keep getting disconnected then windows appearance briefly changes to old style and back again!! Haven't been on any dodgey sites, so it must be something to do with my ISP surely!! :confused: :cryer :cryer

Win2Win
2nd October 2006, 08:23
You obviosuly tried your connection with a 3rd party PC/Laptop before doing all this then? :rolleyes:

Hands up those who think Glos has ignored this thread on purpose? :Helooo :Helooo :Helooo :Helooo :Helooo :Helooo :Helooo

:laugh

Profit Seeker
2nd October 2006, 16:31
Well I wanted new drive anyway cos mines so slow. So does it now look like the modem has been corrupted?

presto
2nd October 2006, 16:36
next time you want some advice / hardware for your computer PS - just go to PC world :) would be far easier.

Profit Seeker
2nd October 2006, 16:59
Tried them, I think even I know more :yikes:

sparkyminer
2nd October 2006, 18:14
Hands up those who think Glos has ignored this thread on purpose? :Helooo :Helooo :Helooo :Helooo :Helooo :Helooo :Helooo

:laugh

This must be the longest thread in the PC help section.:laugh

Win2Win
2nd October 2006, 19:39
Only because Person A, does not listen to People B-Z, and tries to put square box in round hole :D

mathare
2nd October 2006, 20:01
Only because Person A, does not listen to People B-Z, and tries to put square box in round hole :DDon't mention Person B, John will be round here on the sniff again ::hump

Profit Seeker
2nd October 2006, 21:46
Only because Person A, does not listen to People B-Z, and tries to put square box in round hole :D

So if you'd like to point just where I haven't listened...:doh I don't reacall any suggestions as to what my disconn problem is other than you saying reinstall windows...DONE! :rolleyes:

Win2Win
2nd October 2006, 22:00
...and a memory problem :)

GlosRFC
3rd October 2006, 00:02
Hands up those who think Glos has ignored this thread on purpose? :Helooo :Helooo :Helooo :Helooo :Helooo :Helooo :Helooo

:laugh

I've been...errrrrr....away :wink
Probably a good thing too although Oldham seems to be holding the fort in my absence!

I have to admit I've never known anyone change their hard disk because they're getting disconnected though. That's clearly a handshaking issue with your modem or, if it's connected to Windows switching display modes, a registry problem. And as far as I can see, you've simply transferred your old registry to the new one. Your ISP certainly won't be capable of changing the appearance of Windows.

I'd also be a tad concerned about trying to install anything, much less an operating system, that suggests it's a hybrid. Even more so if it has anything to do with Vista which:
a) hasn't even got past beta-testing mode (and latest reports suggest that its launch is likely to be delayed a further 5 months while they try to remove the bugs) and
b) requires a far more powerful system than mine to work!

If it's simply a case of your new OS not recognising the modem, you can try inserting it into a different slot on the PC. That will usually force Windows to recognise that it exists. Try installing the original drivers for the modem first to see if it works. If not, search for updated drivers for your particular model. It might be that your ISP is moving over to the newer Teredo and IPv6 specification that is incompatible with your existing modem drivers: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/maintain/teredo.mspx

Then again, you don't say when you get disconnected...30 seconds, 5 minutes, an hour? A lot of ISPs will disconnect you if you're not actively transmitting packets over a given time-frame. That's why I always have a program running that pings my mailserver every 15 minutes - even though technically I should get disconnected after an hour, this box has been connected for 18 days now :rolleyes:

Profit Seeker
7th October 2006, 00:15
How have I transferred my old registry to my new one?

I was getting cut off completely randomly. And it has still only happened that one time with the new hard drive, never since. Also, I didn't replace drive cos of that problem, it was just a contributing factor to tons of problems.

Regarding this OS, no probs whatsoever thus far. System's nippy as new. The only requirements I've read about is minimum 800mhz processor, even my old thing is bigger, and 512mb ram, which I've yet to increase to.

Win2Win
7th October 2006, 08:47
It'll be storming then on your new dula core 64-bit processor then :)

Profit Seeker
7th October 2006, 11:51
Even better on my quads. :)

Profit Seeker
15th October 2006, 17:37
Well apart from my keyboard prblem which is put upable with, I've got a couple of others. The main thing being that my p2p program Ares won't connect to internet. I downloaded limewire and that connects but I hate it cos it's very slow and naff compared with Ares. Is there any kind of settings I need to mess with to sort this, or does the fact that one p2p (limewire) connects mean that it's a problem with Ares their end?