Copa America

[yerotsluap]

26/06/07
1.81 Uruguay v Peru 5.70 Draw 3.60 Lost 3-0
1.51 Venezuela v Bolivia 7.80 Draw 4.70 Drew 2-2

[Elbarto]

Fancied Uruguay myself since theyve the bigger names and better form, but Peru are the more hungry team at the moment and deserve to be 2-0 up.

[yerotsluap]

to be honest wasn't really sure which side to go with but sided with Uruguay because I thought Peru had the weaker defence and midfield but uruguay have been very poor in my opinion

[jonahjones]

Agreed Paul. Thought Uruguay would have put up a better fight than they did.

Tournament was very kind to me three years ago. I stayed up to watch every game and layed 0-0 and under 2.5 goals in every match and there wasn't a goalless draw throughout.

Good start this time. :)

[jonahjones]

Not a bad start for goal backers with seven in the first two games. :)

[yerotsluap]

0/2
0%
-2pts

27/06/07
2.87 Ecuador v Chile 2.40 Draw 3.20 Won 3-2
1.57 Brazil v Mexico 6.00 Draw 3.60 Lost 2-0

[Merlin]

Good luck with Brazil Yerot.....the other game is a close one...I wont be betting but think Ecuador may edge it...Draw no bet is an option....

Good luck , mate...

[jonahjones]

Not a bad start for goal backers with seven in the first two games. :)

And another three inside the first twenty two minutes of the third! :yikes:

[Mattw07]

going on how open the match is, a few more goals to come yet i would imagine.

I think chile will win this still, (Not betting on it no!)

[jonahjones]

going on how open the match is, a few more goals to come yet i would imagine.

I think chile will win this still, (Not betting on it no!)

I'd like to think there will be a few more Matt! Have been impressed with Ecuador's speed and movement up-front so far. Chile seem to overcook it when they get near to or in the box but I expect them to alter their approach in the second half.

Fingers crossed. :)

[jonahjones]

Ecuador 2 Chile 3.

Can't believe Ecuador lost this game! A combination of the post and the red-hot Chile keeper kept them out. Game changed on an extremely dodgy offside given against Ecuador when striker one on one with keeper outside his box preventing an almost certain goal. Within 20 seconds Chile get the equaliser. The linesman on the opposite side then evens things up with an even more outrageous offside when striker clearly 10 yards on and goes through to score.

Great start to the tournament though with twelve goals in three games.

Brazil's turn now with delayed kick-off which means I won't get to bed until circa 4.00am and up for work at 6.30am. :yikes:

Hope it isn't 0-0. :)

[jonahjones]

Brazil 0 Mexico 1. :yikes:

Fantastic goal by the 21-year old Mexican starlet. :goal

[jonahjones]

Brazil 0 Mexico 2. :yikes::yikes:

What a free kick! :goal

[Elbarto]

Both goals were amazing. Brazil just aint hitting top gear yet, but of the starting 11 tonight how many wouldve started if it was the world cup final, 2 maybe 3 of them. If Argentina can play their normal game its their competition for the taking!!!

[yerotsluap]

0/2
0%
-2pts

27/06/07
2.87 Ecuador v Chile 2.40 Draw 3.20 Won 3-2
1.57 Brazil v Mexico 6.00 Draw 3.60 Lost 2-0

1/2
1/4 Overall
25%
-1.60pts

[yerotsluap]

28/06/07
2.50 Colombia v Paraguay 2.87 Draw 3.10 Lost 5-0
1.28 Argentina v USA 12.00 Draw 4.75 Won 4-1

[jonahjones]

Colombia 0 Paraguay 5!

Bring on Argentina v USA. :)

[Mattw07]

Argentina will put 20 past colombia if there defense is like that again, USA proberly will as well!

Brilliant to watch so far :)

[scoobydoo]

Colombia 0 Paraguay 5!

I was so tempted to do +3.5 tonight after the way the goals have been going in...thought there had to be a low score one round the corner...not this one though! :splapme:)

[jonahjones]

I was so tempted to do +3.5 tonight after the way the goals have been going in...thought there had to be a low score one round the corner...not this one though! :splapme:)

The tournament is a goalfest Scooby!

Just hope I am going to bed at 4.00am after a sackful in the Argentina game to make up for my nightmare last night. Backed over 2.5 goals heavily in Brazil game and went in for more and more in the second half as Brazil missed chance after chance. Eventually wrote it off as one of those nights when, with the clock on 92:55 with the ref having allowed three minutes, Mexico striker went one on one with 'keeper, rounded him and from dead centre of goal and only seven yards out, somehow missed.

I don't know whether you have seen it but it does need to be seen to be believed. Obviously didn't matter much to him or them as the game was won but meant a hell of a lot to many people.

[Mattw07]

Apologies to Yerots and everyone followin hes selections but little bit of american blood in me, so im hoping for a good USA victory again!

Scoobs Do +3.5 on the argy usa match, USA 4 Argentina 0! :)

[jonahjones]

I don't know whether you have seen it but it does need to be seen to be believed.

And here it is. ;fire

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhQT-DeRmME

[jonahjones]

Argentina 0 USA 1! :wiggle:

[jonahjones]

1-1 almost immediately!

[Mattw07]

yup think its game over for usa now!

Was exciting for a few minutes :)

[jonahjones]

yup think its game over for usa now!

Was exciting for a few minutes :)

One more goal for anyone within the next 73 minutes will make seven and a half hours sleep in three days that much easier to take! :)

[jonahjones]

One more goal for anyone within the next 73 minutes will make seven and a half hours sleep in three days that much easier to take! :)

Argentina 2 USA 1! :)

[jonahjones]

4-1 to Argentina at full-time.

Now for some sleep. :)

[scoobydoo]

Eventually wrote it off as one of those nights when, with the clock on 92:55 with the ref having allowed three minutes, Mexico striker went one on one with 'keeper, rounded him and from dead centre of goal and only seven yards out, somehow missed.

I don't know whether you have seen it but it does need to be seen to be believed. Obviously didn't matter much to him or them as the game was won but meant a hell of a lot to many people.

What a shocker....that would have kept me awake a bit longer I think! :splapme

[yerotsluap]

28/06/07
2.50 Colombia v Paraguay 2.87 Draw 3.10 Lost 5-0
1.28 Argentina v USA 12.00 Draw 4.75 Won 4-1

1/2
2/6 Overall
33.33%
-2.32pts

[yerotsluap]

30/06/07
7.50 Bolivia v Uruguay 1.40 Draw 4.33 Won 1-0
2.40 Venezuela v Peru 2.87 Draw 3.20 Lost 2-0

[yerotsluap]

01/07/07
1.36 Brazil v Chile 8.50 Draw 4.50 Won 3-0
1.90 Mexico v Ecuador 4.00 Draw 3.30 Won 2-1

[jonahjones]

One thing annoying me about this tournament is that nearly every foul challenge results in an "inury". It is extremely rare for somebody to pick themselves up straight away following the award of a free-kick and get on with the game.

Each match should, realistically, have five minutes of injury time at the end of each half.

[jonahjones]

Brazil 1 Chile 0 - Robinho penalty.

Maybe this will help liven up what so far has been a poor game. :(

[jonahjones]

Some of the referees in this tournament are aboslutely crazy. Two minutes of injury time added on to the first half. :yikes:

The penalty itself took upwards of two minutes to be taken and add a further two for the continued arguing before the restart. Not to mention the replacement of the injured player, the other times the physio has been on the pitch and the play-acting after every challenge.

The ball has been in play for about fourteen minutes!

Chile are very cynical and I can see the red mist descending onto one of their's in the second half.

[vegyjones]

Any chance of Chile getting back into it Jonah?

Got a cheek bet on them! :peeky :splapme

[jonahjones]

Any chance of Chile getting back into it Jonah?

Got a cheek bet on them! :peeky :splapme

:butthead: This kind of cheek vegy? :)

[jonahjones]

Missed a golden chance shortly before half-time, guy elected an Andy Gray-style diving header rather than going with his feet.

They aren't getting forward much and have spent most of the first half with 9 outfield players behind the ball.

Now they have fallen behind, they will have to be more adventurous.

You are still in with a shout vegy as this Brazilian team are no great shakes.

[vegyjones]

Feels like that at the moment!

[scoobydoo]

Jonah, you reckon therell be another goal in game the way its going then or not?

[vegyjones]

cheers jonah ! will sit and hope! :)

[jonahjones]

Jonah, you reckon therell be another goal in game the way its going then or not?

I would like to think so Scooby. As I said, Chile will have to be a lot more positive now and, even if this doesn't result in a goal for them, it will present opportunites for Brazil to break with the pace of Robinho and Andersen. Don't think much of Wagner Love though. His name sounds like he's in the wrong game. :)

Brazil were poor in the first half against Mexico but did everything but score in the second half. I don't think they'll feel safe with only a one goal lead as they really can't afford to draw this game having lost the first.

[jonahjones]

Second half delayed to repair one of the nets!

[scoobydoo]

Thanks mate...looking like a 1-0 to Brazil...

[jonahjones]

Thanks mate...looking like a 1-0 to Brazil...

2-0!!!!!

[jonahjones]

3-0 - Robinho hatrick!

Now two minutes for that sending off. :)

[scoobydoo]

3-0 - Robinho hatrick!

Now two minutes for that sending off. :)

I'm always right of course! :ermmm Was going to lay 1-0 but didnt...:doh

[yerotsluap]

02/07/07
4.50 USA v Paraguay 1.75 Draw 3.50 Lost 3-1
1.28 Argentina v Colombia 10.00 Draw 5.00 Won 4-2

[MattR]

Excellent third goal by Robinho wasn't it. He's a frustrating player though iI think. Bags of skill but often does one thing too many and you don't get an end product. Every so often though you get things like that third goal.

Impressed with Suazo (spelling?) the Chilean forward, looks the type of player who'd do well in the Premier.

I've got to say I think Ecuador have been unlucky so far, in another group I think they'd have made the quarter finals easily. They should have been out of sight against Chile before somehow throwing the game away.

[Merlin]

South American footy is entirely different to the European version.....playing and especially spectating.....it took me ages, to get used to it.....and I sometimes still get periods of boredom watching it.....

The thing is our European brains are programmed to expect a certain footballing pattern/formation....and when we see something different....it looks crap...

South American footy is much more subjective and individulaistic as opposed to the objective and team oriented Europeans.....

Ask the England Team who they would rather play in a World Cup final, I bet it would be Spain or France over Argentina or Brazil , anyday...

[jonahjones]

I'm always right of course! :ermmm Was going to lay 1-0 but didnt...:doh

Have faith Scoob! Managed to lay 0-0, 1-0, 2-0 and under 2.5 goals but was twitchy bum time for a long while as a second one never looked like coming, especially from Brazil.

Chile can count themselves a little unfortunate not to have got something out of the game. Certainly a very flattering scoreline from Brazil's point of view.

[scoobydoo]

Have faith Scoob! Managed to lay 0-0, 1-0, 2-0 and under 2.5 goals but was twitchy bum time for a long while as a second one never looked like coming, especially from Brazil.

Chile can count themselves a little unfortunate not to have got something out of the game. Certainly a very flattering scoreline from Brazil's point of view.

Yeah would have been sweating with less than 10 mins to go...bet +2.5 was good price just before 2nd goal! Just shows you never know whats going to happen do you?:wink

[jonahjones]

Yeah would have been sweating with less than 10 mins to go...bet +2.5 was good price just before 2nd goal! Just shows you never know whats going to happen do you?:wink

The third goal was a complete and unexpected bonus. I was still recovering from the euphoria of the second goal going in when it happened. :)

[vegyjones]

Sorry to keep hijacking your thread Paul... good going by the way :D

Anyway.

First games

Paraguay 5-0 Columbia
Argentina 4-1 USA

That suggests a serious ass whooping for Columbia tonight doesn't it.

Betfair correct scores only have Argentina scoring 3,
so anything over 3 goals goes in the any other score section at 4-1 :yikes:

Looks good value for money to me. Argentina might well be rampant in this game :ooo

Cue a 0-0 draw no doubt :laugh

[jonahjones]

Cue a 0-0 draw no doubt :laugh

Hope not Vegy!

First game of the night is currently USA 1 Paraguay 1 at half-time.

I too am sorry for hijacking your thread Paul. :)

Hope you don't mind me posting score updates and my own assessment on how teams have performed.

[Mattw07]

Quality Thread Paul :)

Got a feeling those early chances america missed may be costly, so ive just greened up, very boring but ive got a big bet on the argie game anyway.

layed Paraguay at 1.97 before the game, backed them at 2.76 at half time.

[jonahjones]

Argentina 0 Colombia 1! :yikes:

[jonahjones]

Argentina 1 Colombia 1 - Crespo scores a penalty and rips his thigh muscle in doing so.:football3:

[jonahjones]

USA 1 Paraguay 3
Argentina 4 Colombia 2

Two more good games and, more importantly, more goals!

Bed time. :)

[yerotsluap]

Sorry to keep hijacking your thread Paul... good going by the way :D

[quote=jonahjones;424511I too am sorry for hijacking your thread Paul. :)

Hope you don't mind me posting score updates and my own assessment on how teams have performed.[/quote]

Dont worry about it fellas

Its good to see everyones feelings on how the tournament is progressing an the teams are playing

[yerotsluap]

30/06/07
7.50 Bolivia v Uruguay 1.40 Draw 4.33 Won 1-0
2.40 Venezuela v Peru 2.87 Draw 3.20 Lost 2-0


01/07/07
1.36 Brazil v Chile 8.50 Draw 4.50 Won 3-0
1.90 Mexico v Ecuador 4.00 Draw 3.30 Won 2-1


02/07/07
4.50 USA v Paraguay 1.75 Draw 3.50 Lost 3-1
1.28 Argentina v Colombia 10.00 Draw 5.00 Won 4-2

4/6
6/12 Overall
50%
-2.38pts

[yerotsluap]

03/07/07
1.80 Peru v Bolivia 4.33 Draw 3.40 Drew 2-2
3.00 Venezuela v Uruguay 2.50 Draw 2.87 Drew 0-0

[yerotsluap]

04/07/07
2.50 Mexico v Chile 2.80 Draw 3.10 Drew 0-0
1.28 Brazil v Ecaudor 10.00 Draw 5.00 Won 1-0

[scoobydoo]

You Copa experts :D...do Mexico and Chile just need a draw to go through tonight? Just seen price on Betfair is 2.76 thats all :yikes:

[Merlin]

Affirmative

[Merlin]

However, a draw wont do Mexico any favours....it would be better for them to lose...

[scoobydoo]

However, a draw wont do Mexico any favours....it would be better for them to lose...

Thanks Merlin. Why would it be better if Mexico lose...is this because they could play Argentina if they top their group?

[Merlin]

Yes...

[scoobydoo]

Yes...

Also, a 0-0 isnt really that good for Chile...because if USA or Colobia win by a high nil score, they wont make it...

Ok ta. But if Chile draw wont they have 4 points meaning they qualify? USA and Columbia have nil points so far dont they???

[Merlin]

Forget that...it was only there for 1 minute...and then deleted:laugh

[jonahjones]

If Mexico win, they will play the second placed team in Group C which will either be Paraguay or Argentina.

If Chile and Brazil win, then Mexico could still finish third even though they have won two games. :yikes:

[scoobydoo]

Forget that...it was only there for 1 minute...and then deleted:laugh

:laugh & Ive just laid the draw for big bucks!!!!!!! :wink

[Merlin]

Good bet, actually, at the price...although I am not betting in the game...

[yerotsluap]

03/07/07
1.80 Peru v Bolivia 4.33 Draw 3.40 Drew 2-2
3.00 Venezuela v Uruguay 2.50 Draw 2.87 Drew 0-0


04/07/07
2.50 Mexico v Chile 2.80 Draw 3.10 Drew 0-0
1.28 Brazil v Ecaudor 10.00 Draw 5.00 Won 1-0

1/4
7/16 Overall
43.75%
-5.20pts

[vegyjones]

:censored:

You'd think that if these south american sides were going to concoct a draw,
that they'd make it a bit less obvious than a 0-0 ... wouldn't you?

I'm writing to the Mexican FA and asking for my £15 back :mad:

:D

[MattR]

There were a few chances Vegy but it was a sort of we're playing for a point but if we do get one then so be it!

[yerotsluap]

05/07/07
2.10 Colombia v USA 3.40 Draw 3.25 Colombia win 1-0
1.53 Argentina v Paraguay 6.00 Draw 3.80 Won 1-0

[scoobydoo]

There were a few chances Vegy but it was a sort of we're playing for a point but if we do get one then so be it!

Didnt see the match Matt but from what Jonah said...it wasnt and end to end game! Brazil saved my bacon...well a little bit!:ermmm

[MattR]

No, but there were a couple of decent chances. Very nearly some severely burnt fingers on betfair though, as Mexico had a glancing header that went inches wides about two or three mins from the end!

[scoobydoo]

as Mexico had a glancing header that went inches wides about two or three mins from the end!

Cough...missed on purpose!! :yikes::wink

[Mattw07]

I no neither team has anything to play for, but 3.8 for the draw in the argentina game, does anyone think thats a bit low, or am i missing something? especially last night to back the draw was about 5.2 in the brazil game.

Will proberly lay the draw in the argentina game, no idea in the USA game will have a fun bet on something but dont have a clue what yet, any ideas?

Matt

[scoobydoo]

Im not sure about this one Matt....would be a bit too high for me to lay given that neither need to win it? I just dont know who it suits to finish top...I take it Argentina will go for it given their price and that the losers play Mexico I see so maybe Argies will want to avoid them?:doh

[MattR]

I was looking at either laying the draw or betting on Argentina but I want to wait for some team news. You would think although Argentina won't be afraid who they meet they would rather win the group and avoid Mexico in the QF's although they'll have to beat them in the semi's most likely.

I looked back at the last world cup qualifying and that's put me off a bit. Argentina drew 0-0 at home to Paraguay and lost 1-0 away, although it was three games from the end and they had already qualified for the World Cup, but the 0-0 home draw was fairly early on so wasn't taken lightly.

I would think Argentina will win but with Crespo presumably out I want to make sure Riquelme or Messi are playing first. Most of Argentina's goals come through those two so if they are rested and with no Crespo and essentially nothing to play for I will stay away from it I think.


USA seem to have some promising young players from what I saw the other night v Paraguay and with better finishing they may even have won the game. They do look suspect at the back though. I think I'm going to go with something goals related as I can't see it being 0-0 with both teams presumably wanting to get a win from the tournament and nothing to lose. Might go with something on 1+ goals to give me a free bet on perhaps 4 goals.

[scoobydoo]

I was looking at either laying the draw or betting on Argentina but I want to wait for some team news. You would think although Argentina won't be afraid who they meet they would rather win the group and avoid Mexico in the QF's although they'll have to beat them in the semi's most likely.

I looked back at the last world cup qualifying and that's put me off a bit. Argentina drew 0-0 at home to Paraguay and lost 1-0 away, although it was three games from the end and they had already qualified for the World Cup, but the 0-0 home draw was fairly early on so wasn't taken lightly.

I would think Argentina will win but with Crespo presumably out I want to make sure Riquelme or Messi are playing first. Most of Argentina's goals come through those two so if they are rested and with no Crespo and essentially nothing to play for I will stay away from it I think.


USA seem to have some promising young players from what I saw the other night v Paraguay and with better finishing they may even have won the game. They do look suspect at the back though. I think I'm going to go with something goals related as I can't see it being 0-0 with both teams presumably wanting to get a win from the tournament and nothing to lose. Might go with something on 1+ goals to give me a free bet on perhaps 4 goals.

Yeah agree Matt....team news first! :DIf you get it from Sky...would you post up here please if you can at all? Doesnt go on Sky centre website till just before kick off or didnt last night.

Have the USA got their first team squad out there or mainly kids?? Wouldve thought they would have done better than they have with full squad thats all....?? The USA game could be very open as there is certainly no pressure on both of them is there...cant qualify now?

[MattR]

Yeah will do Scooby.


USA have left out a lot of their main squad I think as they just won the Gold Cup the week before this started. They passed it around well against Paraguay and all seemed to have good control and technique (unlike England :rolleyes: ) There are a couple I've seen play for them before like Johnson up front, DeMerit of Watford and of course Keller in goal, but most of the rest I'd never heard of and it seems most play in the MLS of this squad. The coach is using it to give them experience. Only 1 game but I was quite impressed with two of their midfielders, Ricardo Clark and Benny Feilhaber.

[scoobydoo]

Thanks Matt...much appreciated!:thumbs

Thought USA didnt have full squad....they would have done pretty well with full squad I would think...they do play good football dont they?? Better than us....who the :censored: doesnt!!! :cryer

[Mattw07]

Ive gone for laying the draw in the usa game hoping to trade on it. May also do the same Goals bet as you MattR, although i can see it being a 0-0 again!

[MattR]

Scooby,
8 changes, Palacio and Tevez up front and Aimar starting.

[scoobydoo]

Scooby,
8 changes, Palacio and Tevez up front and Aimar starting.

Thanks Matt.:thumbs

The goals seem to have dried up a little dont they??:splapme This one looks to be over 2.5 to me....final last words...:rolleyes:

[yerotsluap]

05/07/07
2.10 Colombia v USA 3.40 Draw 3.25 Colombia win 1-0
1.53 Argentina v Paraguay 6.00 Draw 3.80 Won 1-0

1/2
8/18 Overall
44.44%
-5.67pts

[yerotsluap]

07/07/07
2.63 Uruguay v Venezuela 2.80 Draw 3.25 Won 4-1
1.40 Brazil v Chile 9.50 Draw 4.50 Won 6-1

08/07/07
2.30 Mexico v Paraguay 3.00 Draw 3.00 Won 6-0
1.29 Argentina v Peru 10.00 Draw 5.00 Won 4-0

[MattR]

Thanks Matt.:thumbs

The goals seem to have dried up a little dont they??:splapme This one looks to be over 2.5 to me....final last words...:rolleyes:


I really enjoyed the game. Argentina play great football to watch and this was mostly a 'reserve' side. You wouldn't really have known the difference. They dominated the game yet Paraguay also posed a threat on the break as well which made for a great game. I was on Argentina so was sweating a bit as no matter how much they controlled the match they couldn't get the goal then of all people up popped Masceranho!

Argentina really wanted the win as they brought on Messi after about 70 minutes. So that certainly suggests to me they were keen to avoid Mexico.

[scoobydoo]

I really enjoyed the game. Argentina play great football to watch and this was mostly a 'reserve' side. You wouldn't really have known the difference. They dominated the game yet Paraguay also posed a threat on the break as well which made for a great game. I was on Argentina so was sweating a bit as no matter how much they controlled the match they couldn't get the goal then of all people up popped Masceranho!

Argentina really wanted the win as they brought on Messi after about 70 minutes. So that certainly suggests to me they were keen to avoid Mexico.

Yeah saw the result this morning....couldnt stay up! Its different when youre watching it but looking at scores and betfair betting on laptop is not much fun at that time of night!! :D Stayed away from both games in the end...glad I did as would have lost....again! :splapme Thanks for team news mate.:thumbs

Should make for good end to tournament now eh..you think Argies deserve be 1.9 outright then? I guess theyll have much stronger team out for 1/4s?

[MattR]

Yeah I still see them winning it. Mexico will be difficult but I think they have enough to beat them and they look much better than the Brazil team out there. The striker from Boca who played last night looks good as well (Palacio) Aimar was excellent and would walk into any international team i think apart from Argentina cos Riquelme's there :laugh. We had Andres D'Alessandro on loan the season before last and he was a fantastic player and he can't even get in their squad :yikes:


Got stung a bit on the goals on Colombia game. I had 1+ initially and when the first came early I went in on 2+ only for Colombia to miss a penalty and then later on see their striker, one on one with the keeper, manage to square the ball to a USA defender rather than either of the two Colombians who had broken with him :headbange Fortunately the Argentina win gave me a small profit for the night.

[scoobydoo]

Yeah I still see them winning it. Mexico will be difficult but I think they have enough to beat them and they look much better than the Brazil team out there. The striker from Boca who played last night looks good as well (Palacio) Aimar was excellent and would walk into any international team i think apart from Argentina cos Riquelme's there :laugh. We had Andres D'Alessandro on loan the season before last and he was a fantastic player and he can't even get in their squad :yikes:


Got stung a bit on the goals on Colombia game. I had 1+ initially and when the first came early I went in on 2+ only for Colombia to miss a penalty and then later on see their striker, one on one with the keeper, manage to square the ball to a USA defender rather than either of the two Colombians who had broken with him :headbange Fortunately the Argentina win gave me a small profit for the night.

As I thought their reserves would give us a helluva game I would think! It surprised me when Aimar left Valencia last year...hes a top player.

When you just watch the scores and Betfair...you see it suspended and you think goal get in!!...but then you think maybe player sent off or pen or in that case...missed pen!!! :splapme:)

[MattR]

Yes and an awful penalty at that! USA made so many changes it was effectively their third team as virtually all the usual squad aren't there. Ossie Ardiles was saying on Sky that the organisers are not happy with them for bringing what amounts to a reserve team squad and he thinks they won't be invited again.

[scoobydoo]

Yes and an awful penalty at that! USA made so many changes it was effectively their third team as virtually all the usual squad aren't there. Ossie Ardiles was saying on Sky that the organisers are not happy with them for bringing what amounts to a reserve team squad and he thinks they won't be invited again.

Yeah dead right...they dont deserve a place if that is the case do they? Its the same when the British nations send inferior rugby teams to Australia/ South Africa & NZ. I know players are knackered but you may as well stay at home in my opinion....unfair on paying public as well...I know Southern Hemisphere are getting well sick of it.

[MattR]

Yes, just like the league cup!

[scoobydoo]

Yes, just like the league cup!

Yeah...glad Man Utd dont do that and never will I hope!! :peeky :D

[MattR]

We never get past the 2nd round so I don't know what we'd do :laugh

[scoobydoo]

At last Diego puts one away (hope Athletico werent watching!) and then an equaliser within 2 mins....maybe will be +2.5 goals in this game after all! :rolleyes:

[MattR]

Looks like the goals are back. I like the idea of this penalties after 90 minutes rather than extra time. But then all teams in this have played to win (except for last group games when certain results were needed) so maybe it wouldn't make a difference here.

[scoobydoo]

I wish I had done +4.5 goals now on both games...who would have thought it eh! Brazil reserves won easily didnt they....was easiest money I made in weeks!:thumbs

[jonahjones]

You have got to feel for Paraguay. The amount of time and effort that goes into preparing for a Copa America quarter-final and, within ninety seconds, you have your 'keeper sent off, face a penalty and go a goal down. :yikes:

[scoobydoo]

You have got to feel for Paraguay. The amount of time and effort that goes into preparing for a Copa America quarter-final and, within ninety seconds, you have your 'keeper sent off, face a penalty and go a goal down. :yikes:

Yeah....its a shame for the game as well isnt it. But they are still in it by the look of it....seen the draw was 9 at one point but price come in as they have seen them play. It is amazing though how now Mexico look like they have 10 men...they have just stopped playing. Well they had till they just scored when I wrote this!!! :icon_tong :D I know nothing!!! :laugh

[jonahjones]

Castillo - put a goalkeeper, a defence and 18 yards between him and the goal and he scores with his eyes shut.

Put him plum centre of goal, 6 yards out with no goalkeeper and he puts it wide. :splapme

[scoobydoo]

Its raining goals Jonah!! :D Who would have predicted 6-0...:ermmm

[yerotsluap]

07/07/07
2.63 Uruguay v Venezuela 2.80 Draw 3.25 Won 4-1
1.40 Brazil v Chile 9.50 Draw 4.50 Won 6-1

08/07/07
2.30 Mexico v Paraguay 3.00 Draw 3.00 Won 6-0
1.29 Argentina v Peru 10.00 Draw 5.00 Won 4-0

4/4
12/22 Overall
54.54%
-2.05pts

[yerotsluap]

10/07/07
1.58 Brazil v Uruguay 5.60 Draw 4.20 Drew 2-2

11/07/07
1.67 Argentina v Mexico 6.00 Draw 3.75 Won 3-0

[jonahjones]

First blood to Brazil in the semi-final. Maicon scoring on thirteen minutes. :football3:

Now the floodlights have gone! Could be an even later night than usual. :Bugger:

[jonahjones]

Forlan equalises.:goal

[jonahjones]

2-1 Brazil. Julio Baptista.

Overs comes in again! :)

[jonahjones]

2-2!

[jonahjones]

Brazil win on penalties and cue a mass brawl between both sets of players!

Uruguay blow golden opportunity in sudden death when the post comes between them and the final.

Looks like we are on for a showdown again between the big two.:)

[scoobydoo]

Fell asleep Jonah.....went for over 2.5 goals so I could relax! :wiggle: Just seen the pens this morning....how that pen of Uruguays missed I dont know...shame as they played well in the first half from what I saw. I reckon Argies will win tonight and beat this Brazil side as well in the final...

[MattR]

Yeah I only watched the first half and taped the rest as I was falling asleep. Thought Brazil would go on to win 2-1, 3-1 so was surprised to see it went to penalties and relieved Brazil won it as I dutched Argentina, Brazil and Mexico on the outright market :wiggle:

[yerotsluap]

10/07/07
1.58 Brazil v Uruguay 5.60 Draw 4.20 Drew 2-2

11/07/07
1.67 Argentina v Mexico 6.00 Draw 3.75 Won 3-0

1/2
13/24 Overall
54.16%
-2.38pts

[yerotsluap]

14/07/07
2.44 Mexico v Uruguay 3.00 Draw 3.38 Won 3-1

15/07/07
1.91 Argentina v Brazil 4.30 Draw 3.50 Lost 3-0

[jonahjones]

Third-place play-off about to kick off.

Nothing really at stake and so both teams should be relaxed which is bound to make for an open game.

Surely goals in this? :)

[jonahjones]

1-0 Uruguay.

[jonahjones]

1-1. Blanco penalty and Uruguayan skipper sent off.

[jonahjones]

2-1 Mexico.

Overs lands yet again! :wiggle:

[jonahjones]

3-1 Mexico!

[scoobydoo]

Cant believe it...went against overs tonight and backed Uruguay!::swear Stupid schoolboy error! :doh Ref spoiled the game for me...never a sending off was it! :Blacklistnonono:

[jonahjones]

Cant believe it...went against overs tonight and backed Uruguay!::swear Stupid schoolboy error! :doh Ref spoiled the game for me...never a sending off was it! :Blacklistnonono:

Extremely dodgy decision Scoob. Was still a good game but would have been much better had Uruguay retained eleven men. They were unlucky towards the end with a few chances. Really like the look of Rodriguez. He has had a very good tournament.

A fifth goal in the game would have seen me in dreamland.

Let's hope the final doesn't disappoint.

Can't believe you backed unders! :yikes:

[scoobydoo]

Extremely dodgy decision Scoob. Was still a good game but would have been much better had Uruguay retained eleven men. They were unlucky towards the end with a few chances. Really like the look of Rodriguez. He has had a very good tournament.

A fifth goal in the game would have seen me in dreamland.

Let's hope the final doesn't disappoint.

Can't believe you backed unders! :yikes:

Is Rodriguez the number 7 Jonah? Pretty good player...nearly all left foot I think isnt he? Think that game would've been different but for ref but to be fair to Mexico they were putting on pressure before he sent player off....shouldve had a pen before that!

I didnt explain myself v well...I didnt back unders no...just went for Uruguay instead! :ermmm But...got a bit back when laid 2-1...just thought there were going to be more goals...was going to lay 3-1 as well near the end! For anyone who has done over 2.5 in this comp...it has been a great profitable tournament hasnt it! :thumbs Wonder if final will be the same...I would say yes but you never know do you! Argentina 3-1 I reckon but seen them blow it before against Brazil...however not sure if this Brazil team is the strongest??

[jonahjones]

If there is any justice then Argentina will win it. They have played some fabulous football throughout and I could watch them all day. Crespo is likely to be fit again which is a tremendous boost for them.

After their 6-1 win in the quarter-final, it appeared Brazil were peaking at the right time, however, Uruguay gave them an almighty fright in the semis and should have eliminated them.

Laying unders, 0-0 and no next goal has been very profitable in this tournament. I let myself down though in the third round of group matches. I identified in advance that the two 0-0 matches were ideal candidates for that score but didn't alter my approach and got burnt heavily. :doh

They say you shouldn't go out and buy a player on the strength of his performance in a major tournament, but I think Rodriguez will be attracting attention of bigger clubs than the modest one he currently plays for, Paris St Germain.

[scoobydoo]

Well wouldnt you just know it....41 mins gone and 2-0 Brazil! Looks like Argentina have blown it again! :rolleyes:

3-0 now....& this isnt Brazils first team! I wish England reserves were as good!

[Elbarto]

Yea bit of a shocking game from argentina. They never got going and maybe felt they deserved to win just because of their previous performances and the fact that all their big names showed up. Well done brazil though, but they aint world beaters at the moment

[yerotsluap]

14/07/07
2.44 Mexico v Uruguay 3.00 Draw 3.38 Won 3-1

15/07/07
1.91 Argentina v Brazil 4.30 Draw 3.50 Lost 3-0

1/2
14/246Overall
53.85%
-1.94pts

[andyp]

What a great game! I didnt catch any of the copa america apart from the final and it has converted me back into a fan of south american football!

Suprisingly, brazil looked very solid and organised, unlike what we are used to seeing. Their 2 centre halves were awesome, powerful and won everything in the air (thought riquelmes set pieces would have changed when he saw brazil clear his first 100 free kicks from the air :D). They were also very quick on the counter attack and in the end, that is what killed Argentina off.

I am a massive fan of attacking full-backs and IMO that is a key to sucess. I have always admired players like Petrescu, Carlos and Cafu.... my recent idol is Alves (who scored one and set one up!)...but there is a new guy who could take his status is Makon, the brazilian right back!!!! This guy looks solid, powerful, skillful, good in the air and most of all, he is good going forward. I dont know anything about him, but from what i saw in the final he is definitely going to catch the attention of the top clubs!

[MattR]

It was an excellent tournament Andy, the only games that weren't any good were the third group games that had nothing on them, which was to be expected. Argentina were superb throughout until the final. Would have been interesting to see how the final would have panned out if Riquelme's shot that hit the post had gone in. Just to say how good a tournament it was the final probably wasn't even in the top 3 games.

Now that's over we're ready for the Premier's 0-0, 1-0, 1-1's to begin! :wink

[andyp]

Yeah i heard there was something daft like 90 goals scored through out the tournament or something?! Gutted i didnt actually watch any of it, i used to get frustrated with the south american style of play, where they would either kick ten lumps out of each other or dive around the pitch in an over the top manner! But like i say this tournament has definitely converted me!

I agree Matt, the premiership will prob be a step down in entertainment compared to this.... but having said that, i am really looking forward to this years campaign with all the new signings - BRING IT ON :D

[MattR]

Yeah, I'm really looking forward to the new season, nothing like the buzz of the first game.

[scoobydoo]

I agree Matt...the first game in the hot summer sunshine!!!!!!!!:doh:D :censored: weather!

[MattR]

With our pitch's draining it'll probably be postponed! :laugh At least if it's raining the away fans will have a roof now! :yikes: