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Win2Win
28th January 2008, 13:51
I don't like coincidences!! :geek

Last night I finsihed my work, sat down in front of the TV, and decided to watch the new flight crash program on Discovery at 9PM. It happened to be based in Phoenix, Arizona......I've just been there :ooo

Then I went and got a shower, went to bed, switched on the TV.....the movie Tombstone was starting.....I was there last Tuesday :yikes:

Here's some pics, including the graves of the 3 guys who died in that famous gunfight.

What annoyed me though was that although his wife, Mattie Earp, stars in many of the films (played by an actress of course), her grave is in Pinal County about 70 miles away, in a small grave, away from a dusty road. Not sign posted or anything. You can only find it by luck, or with GPS. You'd think the Americans would make the best of what little history they have. They've also recently demolished 2 ghost towns for housing :splapme

Tombstone itself is well maintained, and is well worth a visit.

Wyatt Earp is buried in LA in a Jewish cemetery next to his wife, he only died in 1929.

mathare
28th January 2008, 13:55
Cool!

The English on that sign needs a bit of work though.

vegyjones
28th January 2008, 14:41
dur,

It's American Mat! :rolleyes:

mathare
28th January 2008, 14:46
dur,

It's American Mat! :rolleyes:It's still badly written

Win2Win
28th January 2008, 15:20
'Wrongly wrote' to use correct phrase Mat :rolleyes:

bigcumba
29th January 2008, 10:26
Wyatt Earp is buried in LA in a Jewish cemetery next to his wife, he only died in 1929.


I'm always amazed at how recent some of that western history really is... I remember Blue Peter having an ancient Native American on in the 70's who was (I think) Sitting Bull's grandson

mathare
29th January 2008, 10:35
I'm always amazed at how recent some of that western history really isWe went to a jousting/knight show at Excalibur when we were in Las Vegas last year and one of the guys there said to us "Do you have shows like this in England?" When we told him that we didn't he said "Yeah, but maybe 500 years ago." The missus and I both sat there are muttered "And the rest!" But 500 years ago to them is way beyond their history so they have no concept of countries having history going back over 2000 years.

Win2Win
29th January 2008, 10:56
Geronimo's great grandson lives in one of the towns we passed through. Very weird, especially as he was one of the most wanted Apache at about the same time my great great grandad was managing Everton :doh

bigcumba
29th January 2008, 11:04
I guess most Americans don't count the fact that Native history goes bak thousands of years....

The jousting thing - they do that at the brilliant Royal Armouries museum in Leeds - one of the best museums I've ever been to. Possibly the only thing worth visiting Leeds for (apart from Sam!)

http://www.royalarmouries.org/extsite/view.jsp?sectionId=2222

The museum itself is free to get in, though some shows cost a few quid to see, but they are all worth seeing.

mathare
29th January 2008, 11:16
The jousting thing - they do that at the brilliant Royal Armouries museum in Leeds - one of the best museums I've ever been to. Possibly the only thing worth visiting Leeds for (apart from Sam!)I went there years back. It is good. How strange that they should have a museum of violence and weapons in Leeds though :D

The jousting show we went to in Vegas was a dinner show. The audience was divided into countries and you had to cheer for your knight and boo the others. The food was soup, roast chicken, spuds & veg then some pastry pudding thing. But there were no knives and forks - you ate it all with your hands. You'd have loved it BigC :peeky:

bigcumba
29th January 2008, 11:55
no knives and forks - you ate it all with your hands. You'd have loved it BigC :peeky:


:laugh That sounds good to me Mat... I've often thought about going to one of those medieval feasts, reckon that would be good fun, especially if they have the odd buxom wench dishing out jugs of mead and beer :D

scoobydoo
29th January 2008, 12:07
Tombstone was on Sunday night....Wyatt Earp was on last night...what is it with these films? Nearly came out at the same time and are even shown together...forgive my ignorance but is it an anniversary or something?

I have to say I reckon Tombstone is the better film...the Costner one goes on a bit as most of his tend to do...its not bad but couldve been condensed I feel.

Win2Win
29th January 2008, 14:48
The 'Tombstone' film is just about his life in the place, while 'Wyatt Earp' shows the story of his full life.

Plenty of mistakes in both films, only 3 died at the OK Corral, they got on the train at Tombstone in daylight, and arrived in darkness, it only took us 30 mins to drive between the two.

Plus when you see them riding through the trees, the tree line starts at 7500ft, Tombstone is at 3000ft, and the tree mountains are about 50 miles away.