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Win2Win Racing
6th January 2009, 16:55
Wayne Bailey takes a look at the record of multiple Irish champion trainer, Noel Meade.

Not many people can be described as a 'household name', but in Ireland, Noel Meade is one such man. Indeed, he's been firing the winners home for four decades now and shows no signs of stopping yet. The story behind Tu Va stables is an endearing one with modest beginnings. His racing kingdom now spans 175 acres, but it all started out with just one horse - ridden by Meade himself!

He took out a licence in 1971, but owners quickly noticed his small but talented crop, and it wasn't long before he had a list of horses to train and made the decision to expand. He's since gone from strength to strength and is recognised as one of the most successful Irish trainers of all time. While he primarily focuses on National Hunt these days, he's also quite successful on the flat and his horses there shouldn't be overlooked.

The Cheltenham Festival has been a thorn in his side somewhat and he had to wait until the year 2000 before finally finding his first winner there. Success has been snatched from his grasp numerous times, most notably perhaps when Hill Society was beaten in a photo in the 1998 Arkle Trophy. I still know people who swear that the result was called wrongly! Meade is a determined individual however, and no doubt we will see numerous entries once again in the 2009 festival.

Here's a quick look at when his horses are particularly noteworthy...
(All data is from 2003 onwards)

Courses

In the past five years, Meade has had 16 winners from 47 races (34.04%) at Wexford, making it by far his most successful course recently. Had you stuck a tenner on each horse, you'd be £123 better off today. With 40 wins from 144 bets (27.78%), Kilbeggan is another course where Meade horses should be noted and a profit of over £600 to £10 stakes would have been shown had you backed each.

Races

Meade is recognised as a bumper specialist and has had 103 winners from 456 races in the past five years, and shows a small profit to level stakes. Meade also likes to target the top races, and in National Hunt Non-Handicaps valued at £21,000+ he's had 55 winners from 317 races and shows a very reasonable profit of nearly £400 to £10 stakes.

Jockeys

What's rare is wonderful as they say, and when Meade teams up with Johnny Murtagh on the flat, they show considerable success and have proved profitable to follow. Nina Carberry has a 25% strike-rate when riding in bumpers for Meade, but punters have long discovered this success story and prices are usually restrictive. Paul Carberry, Niall Madden and Dennis O'Regan also ride for Meade on a regular basis with varying degrees of success.

Horse Age

There's a possible laying opportunity on the flat with regard to two-year-olds - as Meade horses generally take a couple of years to find their form. In fact, he's had just one winning two-year-old in the past five years from 47 races (The Fist Of God at 4/1 back in October 2007).

Trainer Championship

Meade won the Irish jumps trainer championship seven times since the turn of the century, finally giving way to Willie Mullins in 2007/2008. At the time of writing, Meade trails Mullins in the 2008/2009 Irish championship by roughly £340,000 with Jessica Harrington a distant third.



More... (http://betting.betfair.com/horse-racing/jockeys/trainer-in-focus-noel-meade-060109.html)

mathare
6th January 2009, 17:09
Out of interest Wayne, how much of what we see above have you written and how much is added by an editor/sub-editor?

Do you write your own intro lines? Do you choose what is bold and what isn't? Do you have to submit your copy to an editor? Not that there's owt wrong with it, just curious. Is this journalism with all the trappings associated with it or more akin to blogging? Do you pick the topics for each article or are they given to you?

Win2Win
6th January 2009, 17:14
Whose Wayne.....we only have WB here? :)

vegyjones
6th January 2009, 17:42
:yikes: That's right... SHHhhhhhhhhhhhh!

I think Wayne is pretty much free to choose his own content.

And I think it's fair to say with RSS picking up his article - he is now FAMOUS! :D

mathare
6th January 2009, 18:00
I think Wayne is pretty much free to choose his own content.

And I think it's fair to say with RSS picking up his article - he is now FAMOUS! :DNow you've used up your two thoughts for the day what are you going to do?

vegyjones
6th January 2009, 18:34
Rest :D Thunking is very stressful!

wb
6th January 2009, 18:58
Out of interest Wayne, how much of what we see above have you written and how much is added by an editor/sub-editor?

Do you write your own intro lines? Do you choose what is bold and what isn't? Do you have to submit your copy to an editor? Not that there's owt wrong with it, just curious. Is this journalism with all the trappings associated with it or more akin to blogging? Do you pick the topics for each article or are they given to you?

Hi Mat, Basically, I write for two sites - the UK site and the Irish version of the site (betting.betfair.com and betting.betfair.ie) . Some of the copy is shared but some Irish meetings for example (or Gaelic Games etc) will only appear on the Irish site.

For the UK site, I do two articles per week and at the beginning of the month, the editor and I go though the calender and come up with possible topics. He's fairly easy going and I usually get to write on topics of my own choosing. Now and then, he might ask me to do a specific job and to cover a big race or something. Most recently, I was directed to cover the Leopardstown festival for the site.

The copy is rarely edited so it's pretty much all my own work. I'll usually give my article a heading but they do change these from time to time - and may put something more SEO friendly in there. The editor adds in the bold text, photos and puts the article up.

Once or twice a year, I go to Betfair in Hammersmith just to meet the guys and talk about direction. I'm going there this month again actually.


With regard to the Irish site, I'm a sub-editor there so I end up putting my own articles up there and I can pretty much write about what I like. Most of my work on the Irish site ends up being Irish race previews which are fairly straight forward.

It's a handy few quid for something I love. The downside is that when you tip a load of losers, you can come in for a bit of stick as the readership is quite large. So I've learned to be tough skinned in this game!

It's opened up a number of doors for me and I've gotten a couple of newspaper jobs out of it around Cheltenham etc. so I really feel quite lucky to be getting paid for something I love.

mathare
6th January 2009, 19:01
Coo. Sounds like you've got a pretty sweet deal there fella, well done.

Win2Win
6th January 2009, 19:57
......The downside is that when you tip a load of losers, you can come in for a bit of stick as the readership is quite large. So I've learned to be tough skinned in this game!
It helps with me being an inbred retard to deal with that kind of thing :thumbs

mathare
22nd January 2009, 15:17
Once or twice a year, I go to Betfair in Hammersmith just to meet the guys and talk about direction. I'm going there this month again actually.If you haven't already been (and I suspect you have if you were at Ascot the other day) can you have a word with them about the quality of their editors. Most of the articles read as though they have come straight from the Betfair forum rather than the pens/keyboards of authors trying to promote Betfair through quality journalism.

I've no formal journo training but I can surely edit these articles better than the current monkeys given the task based on the number of cock-ups I have spotted recently

wb
22nd January 2009, 18:17
If you haven't already been (and I suspect you have if you were at Ascot the other day) can you have a word with them about the quality of their editors. Most of the articles read as though they have come straight from the Betfair forum rather than the pens/keyboards of authors trying to promote Betfair through quality journalism.

I've no formal journo training but I can surely edit these articles better than the current monkeys given the task based on the number of cock-ups I have spotted recently

Hi Mat, I was over last week but will certainly pass on your comments if you wish - can you give me an example or two?

mathare
22nd January 2009, 18:57
Hi Mat, I was over last week but will certainly pass on your comments if you wish - can you give me an example or two?Thanks :thumbs

Examples can be found in:
http://www.win2win.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=64594
http://www.win2win.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=64562
http://www.win2win.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=64531

I have included the forum threads as that is where I have added my comments and they all contain the links to the original articles. If you need any more let me know. It could be that the football editor is crap and the racing one OK as I haven't noticed many (any?) problems in the racing articles but I don't read them as often or thoroughly as the sports ones