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Win2Win
4th September 2009, 19:11
Horse Racing Systems That Work!
OK I'm putting my willie to the fire and will show you how to profit using low stakes, but a medium-high risk staking plan.
In the years I've been running this site I have never actually mentioned this plan, although I do run it on a few systems where the SR and average odds fit snugly into it. :)
I will not be publishing the qualifiers here, just the results as the selections I will use are simply all the Pro-Bets, both Free and Members.
The staking plan is simple, so any of the members who have access to all the qualifiers can update the results for me if they have time. :wink
Horse Racing Systems That Work!
The staking plan is simply this:
You back the first horse for £2.
If it loses you go up 2 points. So the next stake would be £6, then, £10, £14, £18....etc.....
If it wins you return to £2, and start again. :thumbs
Horse Racing Systems That Work!
Now it should result in an overall increase in profits, but as it is a higher risk plan, that also increase the chance of busting the bank. However that will only happen not because the stakes get out of hand, they won't, but because the selections are not profitable. It is NOT a staking plan that results in a profit after every losing run.
The reason I am doing this is to show that it is possible to make a reasonable amount of money from a very small stake.
If it goes bottoms up, blame Vegy :D
Horse Racing Systems That Work!
mathare
4th September 2009, 19:22
Horse Racing Systems That Work!
Horse Racing Systems That Work!
Horse Racing Systems That Work!
Horse Racing Systems That Work!There's some kind of hidden message in here but I can't quite work out what it is :doh
Win2Win
4th September 2009, 20:00
There's some kind of hidden message in here but I can't quite work out what it is :doh
:D I just want to see how quick Google picks it up :wink
Win2Win
5th September 2009, 12:26
Start the ball rolling today with 2 bets, 4:50 & 4:55 .....Out of all the meetings I end up with races that will probably clash :laugh
Win2Win
6th September 2009, 09:12
W/L: 0/2
P/L: -8
Next Stake: 10
Win2Win
7th September 2009, 12:31
W/L: 0/3
P/L: -18
Next Stake: £14
Exciting this! :rolleyes:
Win2Win
8th September 2009, 10:31
W/L: 0/5
P/L: -50
Next Stake: £22
Win2Win
9th September 2009, 12:11
Winner @ 0.93 - £22 = +20.46
Winner @ 2.5 - £2 = +5
2 x Losers = -8
W/L: 2/7
P/L: -32.54
Next Stake: £10
Win2Win
9th September 2009, 21:42
Lovely winner to place us in profit :thumbs
Winner @ 0.59 - £10 = +5.90
Winner @ 7.2 - £14 = +100.80
3 x Losers = -18
W/L: 4/10
P/L: +56.16
Next Stake: 2
Win2Win
11th September 2009, 12:35
Winner @ 3.4 * £2 = +6.8
0 x Losers = 0
W/L: 5/10
P/L: +£62.96
Next Stake: £2
Win2Win
12th September 2009, 11:06
Winner @ 1.7 * £10 = +17
2 x Losers = -8
W/L: 6/12
P/L: +£71.96
Next Stake: £2
Win2Win
13th September 2009, 14:34
Winner @ 0 * 0 = +0
1 x Losers = -2
W/L: 6/13
P/L: +£69.96
Next Stake: £6
Win2Win
13th September 2009, 17:54
Winner @ 6 * 4.3 = +25.80
Winner @ 6 * 5.4 = +32.40
1 x Losers = -2
W/L: 8/14
P/L: +£126.16
Next Stake: £6
Win2Win
15th September 2009, 09:24
*Quick note: When you get more than 1 qualifier, as happened yesterday, you just put the same stake on both.
Winner @ 2 * 3.95 = +7.9
3 x Losers = -10
W/L: 9/17
P/L: +£124.06
Next Stake: £10
Win2Win
16th September 2009, 11:12
Winner @ 10 * 0.25 = +2.50
1 x Losers = -10
W/L: 10/18
P/L: +£116.56
Next Stake: £2
counterfeit
16th September 2009, 14:09
Keith - why was the loser -15? If the points go up in 2s - I am:confused:
Win2Win
16th September 2009, 15:08
Keith - why was the loser -15? If the points go up in 2s - I am:confused:
Because I was doing it just as the wife's friends arrived and I :icon_tong :ooo
Should be -10 :thumbs
I can't even fiddle the profit down here :laugh
counterfeit
16th September 2009, 15:38
thank :censored: for that. I thought I had lost my only (mediocre) ability, which is to be able to multiply by 2.
TheGoodGuy
16th September 2009, 19:22
Winner @ 12 * 0.25 = +3
1 x Losers = -10
W/L: 10/18
P/L: +£117.06
Next Stake: £2
OK then, if the stake for the losing horse is £10, how can the stake for the winning horse be £12?
Shouldn't it be £10 as well?
:thumbs
Win2Win
16th September 2009, 20:05
I'll slap you with my sausage :icon_tong :D
Winner @ 0 * 0 = 0
2 x Losers = -4
W/L: 10/20
P/L: +£112.56
Next Stake: £6
counterfeit
17th September 2009, 11:00
OK then, if the stake for the losing horse is £10, how can the stake for the winning horse be £12?
Shouldn't it be £10 as well?
:thumbs
if the loser came first wouldn't it be 10 and then the winner would be 12?
TheGoodGuy
17th September 2009, 12:04
The staking plan is simply this:
You back the first horse for £2.
If it loses you go up 2 points. So the next stake would be £6, then, £10, £14, £18....etc.....
If it wins you return to £2, and start again.
if the loser came first wouldn't it be 10 and then the winner would be 12?
No, it doesn't follow the staking plan (above)
If the loser came first at a stake of £10, then the next stake would be £14, not £12.
Quick note: When you get more than 1 qualifier, as happened yesterday, you just put the same stake on both.
And anyway......Keith says to use the same stake when there is more than one qualifier in a day.
:thumbs
Win2Win
17th September 2009, 12:28
You're only arguing over pennies anyway, as the winner was 1/4 :ooo
Win2Win
17th September 2009, 20:30
Winner @ 10 * 0.83 = +8.30
1 x Losers = -6
W/L: 11/21
P/L: +£114.86
Next Stake: £6
What I'm trying to do here is prove that as long as you have a profitable system, using small stakes, in this case a £2 BB (Base Bet), you can make a decent amount. We haven't been going 2 weeks yet, but to round it off, that's £57 extra wages per week tax free. If it continues like that for a year, you've made an extra £3,000 just for starting with £2!! :ooo
Obviously the bank will swing up & down, as we seen the other day, not every winner recovers the losses, that is not the point, the point is the long term upward trend for small stakes and limited risk.
Win2Win
19th September 2009, 16:32
Winner @ 2 * 0.61 = +1.22
4 x Losers = -32
W/L: 12/25
P/L: +£82.86
Next Stake: £18
Win2Win
20th September 2009, 11:05
Winner @ 22 * 0.41 = +9.02
1 x Losers = -18
W/L: 13/26
P/L: +£73.88
Next Stake: £2
Win2Win
20th September 2009, 18:08
Winner @ 10 * 6.0 = +60
2 x Losers = -8
W/L: 14/28
P/L: +£133.88
Next Stake: £2
Win2Win
22nd September 2009, 13:11
Base Bet is only £2
Winner @ 2 * 3.1 = +6.2
0 x Losers = 0
W/L: 15/28
P/L: +£140.08
Next Stake: £2
Win2Win
24th September 2009, 18:24
Base Bet is only £2
Winner @ 0 * 0 = +0
1 x Losers = -2
W/L: 15/29
P/L: +£138.08
Next Stake: £6
Win2Win
24th September 2009, 18:25
Base Bet is only £2
Winner @ 10 * 0.62 = +6.2
1 x Losers = -6
W/L: 16/30
P/L: +£138.28
Next Stake: £2
Win2Win
26th September 2009, 11:45
Base Bet is only £2
Winner @ 2 * 0.22 = +0.44
1 x Losers = -2
W/L: 17/31
P/L: +£136.72
Next Stake: £6
Win2Win
27th September 2009, 09:15
Base Bet is only £2
Winner @ 0 * 0 = +0
2 x Losers = -16
W/L: 17/33
P/L: +£120.72
Next Stake: £14
Win2Win
30th September 2009, 12:12
Base Bet is only £2
Winner @ 14 * 2.2 = +30.8
Winner @ 1.76 * 2 = +3.52
Winner @ 3.82 * 6 = +22.92
Winner @ 2.0 * 6 = +12
2 x Losers = -16
W/L: 21/35
P/L: +£173.96
Next Stake: £2
Win2Win
30th September 2009, 12:13
Base Bet is only £2
Winner @ 0 * 0 = +0
2 x Losers = -8
W/L: 21/37
P/L: +£165.96
Next Stake: £10
Win2Win
1st October 2009, 09:20
Base Bet is only £2
Winner @ 10 * 2.65 = +26.50
Winner @ 4.9 * 2 = +9.80
Winner @ 0.77 * 2 = +1.54
7 x Losers = -74
W/L: 24/44
P/L: +£129.80
Next Stake: £22
Win2Win
2nd October 2009, 09:26
Base Bet is only £2
Winner @ 0 * 0 = +0
2 x Losers = -48
W/L: 24/46
P/L: +£81.80
Next Stake: £30
Win2Win
3rd October 2009, 12:38
Base Bet is only £2
Winner @ 38 * 1.8= +68.40
Winner @ 2 * 1.74 = +3.48
2 x Losers = -64
W/L: 26/48
P/L: +£89.68
Next Stake: £2
Win2Win
5th October 2009, 09:44
Base Bet is only £2
Winner @ 0 * 0= +0
2 x Losers = -8
W/L: 26/50
P/L: +£81.68
Next Stake: £10
Win2Win
5th October 2009, 20:06
Base Bet is only £2
Winner @ 0 * 0= +0
2 x Losers = -24
W/L: 26/52
P/L: +£57.68
Next Stake: £18
Win2Win
7th October 2009, 20:32
Winner @ 18 * 2.7 = +48.60
Winner @ 2 * 0.64 = +1.28
0 x Losers = -0
W/L: 28/52
P/L: +£107.56
Next Stake: £2
Win2Win
9th October 2009, 13:23
Winner @ 2 * 5.2 = +10.40
4 x Losers = -20
W/L: 29/56
P/L: +£97.96
Next Stake: £14
Win2Win
9th October 2009, 20:10
Winner @ 0 * 0 = +0
1 x Losers = -14
W/L: 29/57
P/L: +£83.96
Next Stake: £18
huckabuck
9th October 2009, 21:07
was there 33 losses that we missed :D
Win2Win
9th October 2009, 21:32
was there 33 losses that we missed :D
:doh
huckabuck
10th October 2009, 07:47
next stake :doh
Win2Win
10th October 2009, 08:36
next stake :doh
:ooo I've been too lazy to change the batteries in my keyboard :splapme It kept missing out stuff and adding extra .....done it now :thumbs
roma
10th October 2009, 13:22
Would this work with the system banker selections?
Win2Win
10th October 2009, 13:42
You need to run the results through staking software to see what the best multiple was.
Win2Win
10th October 2009, 20:39
Winner @ 0 * 0 = +0
1 x Losers = -18
W/L: 29/58
P/L: +£65.96
Next Stake: £22
Win2Win
12th October 2009, 09:29
Winner @ 0 * 0 = +0
3 x Losers = -78
W/L: 29/58
P/L: -£12.04
Next Stake: £34
Win2Win
12th October 2009, 15:51
Winner @ 34 * 2.15 = +73.10
1 x Losers = +0
W/L: 30/58
P/L: +£61.06
Next Stake: £2
mathare
12th October 2009, 15:55
Winner @ 34 * 2.15 = +0
3 x Losers = +73.10It's no wonder you need to use an accountant for the business :laugh
Win2Win
12th October 2009, 16:46
It's no wonder you need to use an accountant for the business :laugh
:D
I'm not on my computer, using an old laptop and I think the keyboard is Japanese :rolleyes:
Win2Win
14th October 2009, 12:57
Winner @ 2 * 2.25 = +5
2 x Losers = -8
W/L: 31/60
P/L: +£58.06
Next Stake: £10
Win2Win
14th October 2009, 22:00
Winner @ 0 * 0 = +0
1 x Losers = -10
W/L: 31/61
P/L: +£48.06
Next Stake: £14
Win2Win
15th October 2009, 18:41
Winner @ 0 * 0 = +0
2 x Losers = -32
W/L: 31/63
P/L: +£16.06
Next Stake: £22
Win2Win
17th October 2009, 12:13
Winner @ 0 * 0 = +0
3 x Losers = -78
W/L: 31/66
P/L: -£61.94
Next Stake: £30
Win2Win
18th October 2009, 13:15
I may have screwed this up :splapme I've had to change the service that runs the systems and I switched last week. I should have run all the data through the staking software but ran out of time, and presently I don't have access to it, but will carry on anyway. The overall SR has dropped, and the average odds have changed which makes a difference.
Winner @ 1.84 * 42 = +77.28
Winner @ 2.9 * 6 = +17.4
5 x Losers = -78
W/L: 33/71
P/L: -£141.32
Next Stake: £2
Win2Win
30th October 2009, 11:47
Anyone have the latest data on this? All my results are in the landfill in Vegas :splapme .... and I mean ALL of them :ermmm So I'm missing over a week on all my stats now :headbange
Although I know overall I'm down :rolleyes:
If not I'll start it again with data I've run trhough my software.
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