Benitez

[Win2Win]

He does this season after season and learns nothing! Take the best player off to substitute for an inferior one :splapme ..... never uses subs before 60 minutes :splapme ....and puts Kuyt in positions he never scores from :splapme

Hopefully we get knocked out the CL and he gets the boot, I'm so sick of his ineptitude I'd accept McLaren or Sven :ooo

[peza2605]

ill be next liverpool manager, im sure i could do a worse job.

[Win2Win]

ill be next liverpool manager, im sure i could do a worse job.
It would take some doing to get that bad, even Manc supporters are believed to have some intelligence :rolleyes:

[bigcumba]

even Manc supporters are believed to have some intelligence :rolleyes:

In the same way hedgehogs have road sense? :D.

[chancer]

I can't believe that normal service resumed after last week. The suffering i've done since the pool united match was made worse seeing fulham win. The only question liverpool fans should ask is who could or would take on the job?

[John]

The only question liverpool fans should ask is who could or would take on the job?

Joe Royle :D

[Win2Win]

.... is who could or would take on the job?
Sven .... McLaren..... Bruce :censored: Forsyth ....anyone but Benitozzer :headbange

[TooTall]

Sven .... McLaren..... Bruce :censored: Forsyth ....anyone but Benitozzer :headbange

King Kenny or King Kev would do for the rest of the season

[peza2605]

king kev? seriously? i doubt if hed cope with the tranmere job. unless you mean someone other than keegan...

[TooTall]

Kenny would be ideal until the end of the season but if it meant getting Benitoss out i would except Keegan we would do no worse than we are now :ermmm

[andy000223]

Lay off rafa and if you wanna blame anyone blame them 2 clowns who own the club and are crippling us with dept..
If rafa is sacked then tell me who is available and would do a better job? there's no one out there plus rafa's just signed a new 5 yr contract so it will cost us next years transfer budget in compensation if he was sacked.

We need new owners not a new manager,have faith in rafa and back him changeing now will achieve nothing.

[TooTall]

Lay off rafa and if you wanna blame anyone blame them 2 clowns who own the club and are crippling us with dept..
If rafa is sacked then tell me who is available and would do a better job? there's no one out there plus rafa's just signed a new 5 yr contract so it will cost us next years transfer budget in compensation if he was sacked.

We need new owners not a new manager,have faith in rafa and back him changeing now will achieve nothing.

Its Rafas team Rafas :censored: players :censored: subs. The only reason he still there is because of the Yanks and 1 Champions Leuge win with Houliers team

[TooTall]

For gods sake why swear filters on a gambling forum

[peza2605]

Lay off rafa and if you wanna blame anyone blame them 2 clowns who own the club and are crippling us with dept..
If rafa is sacked then tell me who is available and would do a better job? there's no one out there plus rafa's just signed a new 5 yr contract so it will cost us next years transfer budget in compensation if he was sacked.

We need new owners not a new manager,have faith in rafa and back him changeing now will achieve nothing.

i have faith in rafa believe me :thumbs

[andy000223]

Its Rafas team Rafas :censored: players :censored: subs. The only reason he still there is because of the Yanks and 1 Champions Leuge win with Houliers team

2 champ league finals,1 win..1 Fa cup final win..your not a liverpool fan :icon_tong

who would do better? shut the :censored: up and support your team.changeing manger now would be really stupid its only 1st november.

[John]

Gents, please do not try to circumvent the swear filter. It is there for a reason. This is a public forum and people can be offended by it. I'm sure you can find other words to express the strength of your opinions. If you must feel the need to express yourself swearing then please use the appropriate 'smileys' in place.

Thanks.

Andy - personal attacks on other forum members isn't tolerated here. You have been warned.

[peza2605]

Its Rafas team Rafas :censored: players :censored: subs. The only reason he still there is because of the Yanks and 1 Champions Leuge win with Houliers team


on penalties and fa cup win on penalties. (this is not a :censored: take i know uniteds 1999 european cup was lucky in the final and pens v chelsea, just being honest) but 2 penalty shoot out wins in 5 or 6 seasons?? not good.

but saying that in SAF's 6th season he finally won the league, people wanted him out before then but the premier is totally different now.

i look at liverpools squad and i see 3 players, the obvious ones who i would have in uniteds squad, the rest of em average at best.

at the moment they remind me of united in 80's , beat liverpool then :censored: up the next game. eg that was our cup final then.

do you give benitez time? i dont know but fergie had the same hassle.

[peza2605]

on penalties and fa cup win on penalties. (this is not a :censored: take i know uniteds 1999 european cup was lucky in the final and pens v chelsea, just being honest) but 2 penalty shoot out wins in 5 or 6 seasons?? not good.

but saying that in SAF's 6th season he finally won the league, people wanted him out before then but the premier is totally different now.

i look at liverpools squad and i see 3 players, the obvious ones who i would have in uniteds squad, the rest of em average at best.

at the moment they remind me of united in 80's , beat liverpool then :censored: up the next game. eg that was our cup final then.

do you give benitez time? i dont know but fergie had the same hassle.

i guess what im trying to say is i can see both sides but as a united fan its fun as i would expect it to be for liverpool fans if it was the other way round. it goes with the territory

[lowe1]

king kev? seriously? i doubt if hed cope with the tranmere job. unless you mean someone other than keegan...


We wouldnt want him at Tranmere , another big name player who has done nothing in managment apart from Newcastle getting promoted into the prem with loads of money what else has he done

[Win2Win]

Lay off rafa and if you wanna blame anyone blame them 2 clowns who own the club and are crippling us with dept..
:doh Erm....apart from Hull, and I think Stoke, all Prem clubs are crippled with debt! :splapme

I don't remember the owners substituting Torres, nor sell Alonso, that was all Benitez.... I'm pretty sure the owners do not have a "Don't sub till 60 minutes are up rule either' :ermmm

What has Benitez ever won for Liverpool if you take Gerrard out of the equation? NOTHING.

[Win2Win]

For gods sake why swear filters on a gambling forum
Because it is a public forum on a public service internet, and I think people should show some respect to others they do not know. It is called a civilised society, which we have very little of in the UK these days.

[Win2Win]

.....changeing manger now would be really stupid its only 1st november.
Yeah, it really screwed up Chelsea and Spurs :splapme

[andy000223]

Firstly i'll apoligise for being rude in an earlier post,im not usually like that as it achieves nothing on a forum..
now back on topic,Liverpool fans are more divided than ever about benitez and his methods but i still think he has the support of the majority of fans.

towards the back end of last season was you not excited about the run in and how close we came to the title only for those lucky manc's and there late late goals we would of won that title and i bet you wer'nt saying benitez out then.

Now alonso was sold because he asked to leave many month's before he was sold fact,he told benitez he wanted to go towards the end of last season and i think benitex did well to hold out for the 30 mil he got..

Rafa has made mistake's and still does but he is close to getting it right and bringing us number 19 and once he does 20,21 ,22 will follow..

Those two clowns who own the club are crippling us with debt,and will continue to do so,are if there not forced out a.s.a.p we will end up another leeds playing in the championship within the next 5 seasons.

Anyway big game wednesday and if we lose that i fear he may be sacked,which believe me will put us in a worse state.

[scoobydoo]

Keep Rafa in, he is doing a great job! :Helooo

Saw Carraghers' red card last night...how can he think that was a not a sending off? :doh

[andy000223]

Yeah, it really screwed up Chelsea and Spurs :splapme

Redknapp only left portsmouth cos he knew they were in big trouble and he knew he had lots of money to spend at spurs and lets face it we all knew they were underperforming with ramos so it was no surprise to see them climb back up the table and finish in a respectable position.

chelsea,scolori for whatever reason was'nt given a fair crack of the whip and lots of manager could of done what that Hidink did,but he did'nt win the title or champ league and walked into a club with an outstandind squad.

Now we were closer than ever and those two clowns should of backed benitez with another 20-30 mil to strenghten his bench..but no they held back and pocketed alot of alonso transfer money..

:splapme :splapme :splapme :splapme :splapme :splapme

[TheOldhamWhisper]

The quick and easy way to get rid of the current owners (and clear most of the debt in the process) is to float the club on the Stock Market. But it will never happen with two owners who have an equal stake and who don't 'get on'. Each will fear that the other will gain enough shares to force a hostile takeover, which may or may not be in the best interests of the club.

I would say that at least one 'major' club a season goes through the 'sack the manager' calls early in the season from fans who think the job is easy after playing a couple of seasons of 'Football Manager'!

[Win2Win]

....
towards the back end of last season was you not excited about the run in and how close we came to the title only for those lucky manc's and there late late goals we would of won that title and i bet you wer'nt saying benitez out then......
He trashed the season himself in February with decisions like he is doing now, Torres/Gerrard substituted, starting with Kuyt upfront, he managed the team to lose the Premiership then, and from then on it was an uphill struggle.

If we won the FA Cup, CL and Prem I'd still want him out, as I've said since season 1 along with many other supporters I know.

[Win2Win]

Redknapp only left portsmouth cos he knew they were in big trouble and he knew he had lots of money to spend at spurs and lets face it we all knew they were underperforming with ramos so it was no surprise to see them climb back up the table and finish in a respectable position.

chelsea,scolori for whatever reason was'nt given a fair crack of the whip and lots of manager could of done what that Hidink did,but he did'nt win the title or champ league and walked into a club with an outstandind squad.
:doh So you agree both teams improved because they changed managers before Xmas.... that was my point :splapme

[andy000223]

:doh So you agree both teams improved because they changed managers before Xmas.... that was my point :splapme

Of course i agree, thats fact that spurs and chelsea improved but that dos'ent mean Liverpool will without benitez..

[peza2605]

lucky mancs???? i seem to remember liverpool winning a few games with late late goals last season too. its called battling to the final whistle. AND if liverpool beat the likes of stoke last season they could have won it, 38 game season.

[Win2Win]

lucky mancs???? i seem to remember liverpool winning a few games with late late goals last season too. its called battling to the final whistle. AND if liverpool beat the likes of stoke last season they could have won it, 38 game season.
That'll be the Stoke game he played Kuyt as striker :splapme

[TooTall]

First of sorry about yesterday


He trashed the season himself in February with decisions like he is doing now, Torres/Gerrard substituted, starting with Kuyt upfront, he managed the team to lose the Premiership then, and from then on it was an uphill struggle.

If we won the FA Cup, CL and Prem I'd still want him out, as I've said since season 1 along with many other supporters I know.

I agree if we had won the title last year it would of been in spite of Benitez not because of him.



andy000223 Quote:
Originally Posted by TooTall
Its Rafas team Rafas players subs. The only reason he still there is because of the Yanks and 1 Champions Leuge win with Houliers team

2 champ league finals,1 win..1 Fa cup final win..your not a liverpool fan

who would do better? shut the up and support your team.changeing manger now would be really stupid its only 1st november.

Looks like Ronnie Whelan shares my views to take it he is also no fan

[scoobydoo]

Can we have a Benitoss section in the forum? :D

Lucky Mancs my :butthead:...Utd have been scoring late goals season after season man. :ermmm

[MattR]

Lucky Mancs my :butthead:...Utd have been scoring late goals season after season man. :ermmm

That just means they are continually lucky :wink :laugh

Seriously though, there's nothing lucky about late goals, if you look at any weekend of football across all the european leagues, time and time again the top sides in any leauge will get late winners. It's why they are at the top.

[piggy]

Lucky Mancs my :butthead:...Utd have been scoring late goals season after season man. :ermmm

thats because the refs keep adding on time until you get one :D

[scoobydoo]

thats because the refs keep adding on time until you get one :D

Not at Stamford Bridge they won't! :)

[scoobydoo]

That just means they are continually lucky :wink :laugh



Yeah...just like that Roger Federer, never thought he was that good....just lucky :D

[MattR]

Yeah...just like that Roger Federer, never thought he was that good....just lucky :D


He's the luckiest tennis player since Pete Sampras :D

[John]

:laugh Witty comments here guys, I'm liking it.

I agree with what you've said about United - late goals in consecutive games does make or break a match for a team, and United do battle it to the whistle. But, you have to say that one example of a 'lucky' win was against Arsenal when United beat them 2-1. One own goal from Arsenal, if I remember rightly? And then a disallowed goal for Arsenal for a supposed push that didn't actually occur denying them a 2-2 draw.

That's just one instance I'm talking about, anyway.

I don't think Benitez will be sacked as easily as people seem to think. I think Liverpool like him there. That's twisted logic for you as they're not getting the results (unless they play United of course :wink) but supposing they lose on Wednesday, I can't see Rafa going just yet.

[Win2Win]

Every poll I find on the internet has Rafa as the blame, although that means nothing as we don't have democracy in this country having an unelected leader, and being part of a Federal State!

[MattR]

I think, much like the Utd game, today would be a good time to put your money on Liverpool. Benitez does have a habit of winning the games when they are up against it. It's one of those games you can't see them winning with the players they have out but they seem to win them. IE, can't beat Sunderland or Fulham but beat Man Utd.

[peza2605]

It all depends on torres i think, without him Liverpool are screwed, he is the one playerwho can turn the game in a second for them.
Either way win or lose they will still qualify for the knockouts.
If they had to beat fiorentina 3-0 to go through then thats what i would put my money on.

[peza2605]

According to F365 Torres needs a hernia op could be out for two months!!!:yikes:

[MattR]

Might actually be a good time to bet on them to win the Uefa Cup :D

[scoobydoo]

Might actually be a good time to bet on them to win the Uefa Cup :D
:laugh


According to F365 Torres needs a hernia op could be out for two months!!!:yikes:

Xmas gets earlier doesnt it? :wink

[John]

Xmas gets earlier doesnt it? :wink

Cruel but funny. :D

[peza2605]

Might actually be a good time to bet on them to win the Uefa Cup :D

9/1 favourites on skybet

[mathare]

9/1 favourites on skybet:laugh

It's funny because it's true :laugh

[peza2605]

:laugh

It's funny because it's true :laugh

would i lie about such an important thing ?:D

[mathare]

would i lie about such an important thing ?:DEvidently not, but I had to check. They seem to be the only one to have priced them up too :laugh

[TooTall]

9/1 favourites on skybet

:laugh we have even drifted in that market then was 7-1 last week.
Benitez wont be sacked simply because we cant afford to hes just signed a new 5 year contact and would cost us 13mill to sack him:ermmm thats 3 times the amount we spent on players this summer :headbange:headbange

[Win2Win]

Benitez wont be sacked simply because we cant afford to hes just signed a new 5 year contact and would cost us 13mill to sack him:ermmm
...but that is small with regard to not getting into the CL proper and the CL next season, small change to what you get for that bundle, so they can afford to sack him.

[MattR]

9/1 favourites on skybet


Actually maybe it's not that good a bet, they might meet Fulham :laugh

[Win2Win]

Actually maybe it's not that good a bet, they might meet Fulham :laugh
I haven't banned anyone for a while! :D

[MattR]

:laugh

[TooTall]

Good god he is going to play two up front tonight :omg: shame one of them is Voronin:laugh

[TooTall]

My mistake he is going to play Voronin in midfield :ermmm

[Win2Win]

He said that qualifying is not important and the UEFA Cup is fine ...... good job he wasn't attached to a lie machine, it would have gone off like a nuke :ooo

[TheOldhamWhisper]

If they'd won by 2 clear goals, they would qualify by winning the last 2 games. So, 1-0 in front and no game til Monday, what does he do? Yep - takes off Torres...even the most ardent Rafa fan has to begin to question the wisdom of THAT!

[Win2Win]

Maybe he'll move to Barcelona after they go out! :ooo

[scoobydoo]

You have to say the Champions League doesn't look the formality it has these last few years with the so called bigger teams having it all their own way. It really does look quite competitive this season. Who'd have thought that Russian team would have taken points off Barca home and away?

[Win2Win]

....Barca home and away?
You've gotta be barca to watch Home and Away! :splapme