EW is for Losers!!

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A thread for EW selections & in the long-term hopefully to prove that we would have been better off just backing them to win but

I was going to put State Of Play up for this but feel the value has gone for EW purposes so I'm going to go for Snowy Morning

2.40 Newbury

On the basis that the going is spot on for him today, if the stats are going to get trashed why not follow the Irish & Willie Mullins in particular, two weeks ago his Tranquil Sea broke a 29 year barren spell in the Paddy Power & this one gets a 24lb pull for 10l's against Denman on their running in the 2007 RSA Chase at Cheltenham & was 9/2 favourite for the race when Denman won two years ago.

Victor Chandler are going 1st 5, could be closer than that I reckon!

[Win2Win]

I rarely back EW, if I do it is in large fields with the odds 20/1+

[Street cry]

Each way is fine providng that the place and win oods both represent value respectively.

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2.45 Kempton

Stark Contrast

Forecasts between 20 & 33/s - I is trying to get 25/s on Betfair

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So far then, 2 selections & one third @ 33/1 in the latter. Got two hopefuls for today:

I got 30/s on Betfair about ZIMBABWE(fr) 3.20 Exeter

I could if I bump into the right person later get a bit of a lowdown about this one but my intuitive hunch has already pre-empted the outcome of that, 'EW, they'll say.' So I've taken 29/s about

All Of Me(Ire) - 7.50 Wolverhampton NR

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You're giving out Betfair prices but I thought these were e/w bets (I can't really tell from what you have written - I rarely can work out what your posts mean) so why are you giving win only prices? What about the place part of the bet?

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12.50 Mussel

Sierra Peak

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You're giving out Betfair prices but I thought these were e/w bets (I can't really tell from what you have written - I rarely can work out what your posts mean) so why are you giving win only prices? What about the place part of the bet?

Sorry to confuse you Mathare, these can be EW or Win bets, the general idea is to prove that in the long-term, with a little luck, rather than splitting a stake for EW you would have been better off just lumping it all on to Win -

I'm hoping to do better here than I am on the Daily Joint Venture - those aren't always races I would choose to bet in but I am EW profitable so far this month - another winner pretty soon though would make me profitable on the Win front and that is what I am trying to achieve (God willing or machine speed!) here.

Anyway, today:

3.50 Wolverhampton - Adage 16/s Ladbrokes & others

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Still only one placed from 5 selections that ran...

Looks like I'm having to go out for a special visit to my local Ladbrokes today, just hope it's still 100/1

Racing Demon 3.05 King George Kempton Saturday

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These people have had some decent priced places of late - so watch this disappoint now I've tipped it!

1.30 Lingfield - New York Lights 40/s with Boylesports

[Zurabiceman]

I cannot agree that EW is for losers, EW is a great value bet as long as you know where to look, I fancy an EW bet in the 17:20 Kempton on Thursday, the horse is Faithful Ruler, currently 10/1, should I disregard this as it is a losers bet or should I take it on as a bet that is a value bet, think I will take it on. :)

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I cannot agree that EW is for losers, EW is a great value bet as long as you know where to look, I fancy an EW bet in the 17:20 Kempton on Thursday, the horse is Faithful Ruler, currently 10/1, should I disregard this as it is a losers bet or should I take it on as a bet that is a value bet, think I will take it on. :)

This thread is to show that in the long-term you would have been better off by putting £2 Win on your EW fancies rather than £1 EW as invariably some of them will win.

While I'm here & so generous Ladbrokes @ 33/s

2.15 South - Tidal Force

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3.10 Pont

Bel Cantor

Will do but will be slightly p'd off if Damika wins today - one for the future whatever!

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Bit of a short price but while I haven't got a thread for flat selections (going to have a go on the £1,000 challenge soon) so here will do for now:

5.15 Bev

Dispol Diva

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3.15 York -

NOSEDIVE 40/S Betfair / 33/s Bet365

Will do very nicely, tavm

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5.15 Ayr

Smokey Ryder 20/s BF around 16/s t'others.

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Carlisle

2.30 - Global

3.05 - Smarty Socks

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So far then, 14 selections & only 2 placed, both @ 33/s though -

Today:

Newc 5.40

Marillos Proterras - I got 20/s

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Might have more for today yet but so far I have done:

Aaim To Prosper 22/s

3.05 Newc

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Yet another loser & this one has yet to win anything bar a little place money but arguably has run her best race of the last two seasons on here reappearance & today, a career low mark, so:

7.25 Mussel

Bees River

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2.00 NewmJ

Take Ten

actually, I took 33/s but whatever!

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4th @ 22/s that Take Ten above....

8.20 Kempton AW

License To Till, I took 16/s bog

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3rd @ 12/s 1/5th odds

So far then W-P-L / / 0-4-15

Places @ SP 33, 33, 22, 12

H'mm can't remember whether they're 1/4 or 1/5 odds, I'll try & record in future but we're getting better & almost maybe break-even on the place front - still looking for the elusive winner though!

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3.55 Notts (hopefully 8 runners)

Christmas Carnival

11/s bog to me

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Tee hee... I got bog @ 25/s on 365 last night about Fullanby

4.30 Ayr


They're 16/s now but there is still some 20/s about... But anyway,

Yeh! A winner at last.... I told everyone I saw on Friday to do that Christmas Carnival. The betting account is looking a lot healthier but a lowly 12/s doesn't give me the desired effect on the stats here - another, like that CC within the next few bets should do it but I is nowhere near as confident today & really I must be due a loser...

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Got 28/s bog about

Avow

3.25 Ascot

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Given all the stats & everyting, kinda think

3.00 Carlisle

Rising Kheleyf

is over-priced I got 33/1 bog

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I have gone bog @ 20/1 about

5.10 Galway

Mayday Frontier

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Hell, I got 8/s about Galpin Junior, that's almost EW do-able so I'll add him:

Galpin Junior - 4.10 Pont but but

Tukitinyasock - 3.50 Newc I got 33/ bog....:happyboun

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That's more like it!

Wins - 2 - 12/s & 40/s
Places - 4 - @ SP 33, 33, 22, 12
Lost - 20

Think that proves the theory but I'll have to sober up a bit to do any more maths than that for now:spinning

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That's more like it!

Wins - 2 - 12/s & 40/s
Places - 4 - @ SP 33, 33, 22, 12
Lost - 20

Think that proves the theory but I'll have to sober up a bit to do any more maths than that for now:spinning

Oh well - I've just had to explain it to someone so:

26 bets @ £1 EW returns £84
26 bets @ £2 Win returns £108

So for the time-being, EW is for losers!

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3.30 Brighton

Mons Calpe - gone bog 16/s

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Almost missed one...

Have gone bog 50/s about

Jemimaville

3.50 Yarmouth

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Have gone bog 20/s about this pair at Redcar:

3.40 Lizzie
5.20 Chateauneuf

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4 bets not even placed :thumbsdown:

But anyway, while Hills are 12/s & 365 33/s I have gone bog about

3.10 Redcar

Bojangles Andrews

More confident of a place than a win as not sure he'll stay the mile:confused:

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H'mm, last is one thing but being 17l's behind the rest of the field:ermmm not sure he gave his true running there..

None too sure about this one either, hot little race for today's selection.

4.30 Southwell

Vegas Palace

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I have gone bog @ 33/s about

Bon Spiel

4.50 Newb

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5.35 Ham

Louisa

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5.55 Folk

Barbirolli

Gone 33/s bog about

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5.55 Folk

Barbirolli

Gone 33/s bog about

3rd @ 33/s

Have done the same about On The Cusp in the first @ Lingfield

Any sign of a run & I may have a go on the same stables runner in the third but I'll wait & see.

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Valmina

6.20 Wolves

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Thought that was bad (came 6th) here's a real real shot to nothing....

Trading Nation

7.20 Wolves

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Oh well.. I've ummed an arred enough to realise I'd be gutted if it won & I hadn't so I did....

3.55 Ling - bit competitive & hopefully previous CD experience could hold sway so

MY LEARNED FRIEND

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Gone BOG about

Bowermaster

2.00 Donc

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I see that Bojangles Andrews came 3rd @ 80/1 in a hurdle t'other day & Bon Spiel (tipped last time) set to go again today but today, we're going for

5.05 Bath

Mythical Blue

I got 33/s from BlueSq

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3.20 Ayr

Stolt - I gone bog 25/s but 40/s can be had with WHills & BSports - more accounts required me thinks..

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Today we're going completely mental:crazy:

& doing Arganil 3.20 Ayr

We got bog 50/s 1st 5 for a place.

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Might have to re-invigorate the AW thread - quite fancy the Irish invader in the last but I'll see how this gets on first:

5.45 Wolves

Equinity

25/s with BlueSquare

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3rd @ 16/s that one...

Today I've gone bog about

Bowdler's Magic

3.00 Ascot

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3.30 Ayr

The Magic Of Rio

Matched @ 48/s:smile:

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4.20 Winc

I gone BOG 20/s about

Master Mahogany

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A thread for EW selections & in the long-term hopefully to prove that we would have been better off just backing them to win but

I was going to put State Of Play up for this but feel the value has gone for EW purposes so I'm going to go for Snowy Morning

2.40 Newbury

On the basis that the going is spot on for him today, if the stats are going to get trashed why not follow the Irish & Willie Mullins in particular, two weeks ago his Tranquil Sea broke a 29 year barren spell in the Paddy Power & this one gets a 24lb pull for 10l's against Denman on their running in the 2007 RSA Chase at Cheltenham & was 9/2 favourite for the race when Denman won two years ago.

Victor Chandler are going 1st 5, could be closer than that I reckon!



I rarely back EW, if I do it is in large fields with the odds 20/1+

ONLY "EW TREBLE" betting style is good .. ..
single ew or double ew etc. is not logical .. ..