Ghana v Uraguay

[Win2Win]

Nice to see Uraguay cheat to get through :ermmm .... feel sorry for Ghana and Africa being cheated out of the semi's.

[mathare]

How did they cheat? :doh

[bigcumba]

The handball on the line.. that should be given as a goal, because it's blatant, it's obviously going to have been a goal.. and it's unfair to give the side who committed the offence a possible get out.. they don't deserve it..

[mathare]

The handball on the line.. that should be given as a goal, because it's blatant, it's obviously going to have been a goal.. and it's unfair to give the side who committed the offence a possible get out.. they don't deserve it..Perhaps. But both sides knew the rules before the game started and the punishment for the offence committed is exactly was was meted out - the offending player is dismissed and a penalty awarded. It's unfortunate Ghana missed it but these things happen.

I agree that it may seem unfair in this case but it's not as though Ghana dominated the whole game. Throughout the whole 120 minutes of play it was fairly even. Uruguay had more shots on target and more corners than Ghana.

The way I see it, Suarez used the rules to his advantage rather than cheating. Had he not been sent off and the penalty not given then he would have been cheating.

[yerotsluap]

If it had been at the other end Ghana would have done exactly the same and had they done that Adrian Chiles and the boys would still be celebrating it as opposed to slagging off Suarez

[bigcumba]

The way I see it, Suarez used the rules to his advantage rather than cheating. Had he not been sent off and the penalty not given then he would have been cheating.

Yeah good point, and same to you Paul.. perhaps the rules need changing then.... though I doubt that's ever going to happen!

[vegyjones]

It was even more gutting if you had Ghana in the office sweepstake :cryer:

[yerotsluap]

It was quite amusing watching ITV's coverage after the handball. Adrian Chiles, Gareth Southgate and Andy Townsend going out of their way to suck up to "Ghana fan" Marcel Desailly, a man so proud of his Ghanaian roots that he chose to play for France.

[tovarich]

It was even more gutting if you had Ghana in the office sweepstake :cryer:

I got ENGLAND in the sweep! Just how lucky can a Scotsman get? ::swear

[Win2Win]

About 85% of penalties end in goals, so statistically during the last 5 minutes or so of every game if you are winning/drawing, it pays to handle the ball off the line to save the result, get sent off, and over the season profit from the 15%.

We all call Maradonna a cheat for scoring with his hands, we all called Henry a cheat for using his hands to get a goal, but it's not cheating to stop a 100% guaranteed goal with your hands? :doh How does that work then? :splapme

[yerotsluap]

About 85% of penalties end in goals, so statistically during the last 5 minutes or so of every game if you are winning/drawing, it pays to handle the ball off the line to save the result, get sent off, and over the season profit from the 15%.

We all call Maradonna a cheat for scoring with his hands, we all called Henry a cheat for using his hands to get a goal, but it's not cheating to stop a 100% guaranteed goal with your hands? :doh How does that work then? :splapme

It is cheating but the difference between this and Maradona or Henry is that the officials saw it and punished Suarez and Uruguay as the rules say they should, ie red card and penalty. If Gyan had scored the penalty no-one would be having this debate. Also at that point of a knockout game surely its just a ractionary sub-conscious thing to do and wouldn't 95% of professional footballers do the same thing. I seriously doubt the worldwide outcry over this would have been anything like the level it is had it happened at the other end. If a Ghanaian had done it and then they'd won on penalties he'd be a hero not a cheat.

[scoobydoo]

I felt I was the only one cheering Uruguay on last night, ITV was pretty biased hosted by the useless Adrian Chiles. Does he have to make jokes about everything? Well done Diego and unlucky Ghana, you had your chance and blew it Gyan.:splapme What a great story for Uruguay, a population of just over 3.5 million...its amazing they have 2 world cup wins isn't it?

Now hopefully those :censored: trumpets will go silent! :peeky :D

[Win2Win]

a Ghanaian had done it and then they'd won on penalties he'd be a hero not a cheat.
That's irrelevant to the fact that any team at any time can cheat a result knowing full well the odds are better in their favour than just allowing it in, and the loophole should be closed. The ref should be given the authority to either give it as a goal or a penalty .... although they can't even give goals as goals :splapme .... that would solve one flaw in the rules without technology..... you here that Mr Sad Bladder??? WITHOUT TECHNOLOGY :D

[Laf]

The incident just highlights another thing that's wrong with football, a lack of common sense. The ball was goal bound, it was stopped illegally, a goal should be immediately awarded and a yellow card handed out.

[mathare]

It's interesting that the other Uruguayan who tried to prevent the ball crossing the line doesn't even get a mention in this argument. He also tried to handle the ball but didn't even get booked. The intent was there but the execution of the illegal move was poor and he failed to make contact. No booking for unsportsmanlike conduct though even though he clearly intended to make the same play as Suarez.

[Win2Win]

The incident just highlights another thing that's wrong with football, a lack of common sense. The ball was goal bound, it was stopped illegally, a goal should be immediately awarded and a yellow card handed out.
A number of pundits have now said what I said earlier. We never stamped out shirt pulling, diving and holding when that started out, and now look at the mess the game is in with those things .... all part of the game people say ... no it isn't it's against the rules, and so is not allowing goals that are goals, and allowing offside goals to stand. Rules are broken in every single game so what is the use of having rules? :doh

[mathare]

A number of pundits have now said what I said earlierYes, and how often do we ever listen to what they have to say for themselves? :wink

[Win2Win]

Uruguay striker Luis Suarez claimed "the 'Hand Of God' now belongs to me" after he broke Ghana's hearts and helped his side reach the World Cup semi-finals.

:ermmm Proud of cheating!!! :ass2'ole


FIFA have confirmed that Uruguay striker Luis Suarez could miss the rest of the World Cup following his hand-ball against Ghana in their quarter-final on Friday.
Well it can't just be a 'normal' hand ball if that's their line of thinking.

[scoobydoo]

Well it can't just be a 'normal' hand ball if that's their line of thinking.

Uruguay's Luis Suarez has escaped an extended ban for his handball against Ghana, but will miss Tuesday's semi-final with the Netherlands.

Suarez was shown a straight red card for the illegal goal-line clearance which kept out Dominic Adiyah's header in Friday's quarter-final.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/world_cup_2010/8785140.stm

[vegyjones]

It would have wrong to change the normal punishment for that incident just because it is in world cup.

They may need to discuss the idea of an equivalent of the 'penalty try' in rugby though.