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biyax
15th August 2011, 10:19
just observation, i haven't stat
2yo Stks
Saeed BinSurour
David Nicholls
Micheal Jarvis
Brian Meehan
Paul Cole
3yo Stks
William Haggas
Henry Cecil
4yo+ Stks
Mark H Tomkins
John Dunlop
Micheal Jarvis
A P O'Brien
2yo H'caps
Tim Easterby
3yo H'caps
David Nicholls
John Dunlop
Luca Cumani
4yo+ H'caps
Saeed BinSurour
William Haggas
Michael Bell
Eric Alston
Paul Midgley
Godspot
24th August 2011, 02:01
Admin - can this post be moved to Horse Racing Stats thread plz? Looks a useful title a can build on - I seemed to have missed this posting :ermmm
biyax
25th August 2011, 19:50
I seemed to have missed this posting :ermmm
you seemed to have missed this posting :ermmm
http://www.win2win.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?74404-SPEED-vs-CLASS
Godspot
26th August 2011, 03:40
you seemed to have missed this posting :ermmm
http://www.win2win.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?74404-SPEED-vs-CLASS
Nope - I saw that one -
A few of these listed above:
The ground at York continues to be a ‘going’ concern – some horses just don’t handle it, I think it was Richard Hannon last year giving that excuse for defeat of Dick Turpin but two pundits at least are still going on about it in this week’s Weekender:-
Tom Segal makes an interesting point, imho
After having noted that for the second year running the Ebor meet ‘produced some totally unfathomable results,’ (a strange place for my ratings too, a place where third or fourth top seem to do better?). Simon Holt puts it down to the jockeys & like Tom, ‘not knowing where to go or what to do’ but his most acute observation I think was that some trainers’ horses just seem to handle it better than others. Mark Johnston (for whom the course is pretty local) & Aidan O’Brien had a relatively bad week & says about the Johnston’s, Namibian, ‘he just couldn’t get a hold of the ground,’ and notes that in the last 5 years Johnston’s 5% strike rate at the track is his worst anywhere.
In total contrast, he says, ‘nearly all the top Newmarket yards have a great record at York:
H Cecil 22%, M Bell 20%, W Haggas 18% and M Stoute 16%
& suggests maybe:
‘Could it be that the watered gallop at Newmarket prepares horses perfectly for the conditions that were prevalent at York last week? He suggests we should all watch the Great Voltigeur again to plainly see how only one horse handled the track.’
Other Nermarket trainers with decent SR’s include the Godolphin pair S bin Suroor & Mahmouud Al Zarooni but best of all until last week was John Dunlop 32%
biyax
26th August 2011, 11:45
nice read
cheers
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