My betting attempt! (blog)

[ProPocer]

I'm going to (hopefully consistantly) keep a bit of a diary in here on my experiences with the win2win selections and see if I can't at least match the profit/loss pts that the main man himself achieves.

I'm unsure as to whether I will be able to do them race by race. I really doubt there's a single member who can tbh. Unless there's any who make their entire living through it then most people will be having to work a proper job throughout the day. I'm fortunate enough that I make my living from online poker so I can be at the pc at all times. But as full concentration is usually needed placing so many bets through the day then it's still going to be very difficult. Will see how it pans out.

So, starting with yesterday, I started a bit late and didn't get every horse on (still getting used to the mayhem) but ended up with a 7.2pt losss for the day. (if calculated correctly). I am staking to £10 levels, which ultimately means my bank should ideally be £1k (I think).

I will be TRYING to make some price decisions with some of the races, ie last night I scanned through the selections and cards and decided to lay Lightning Rod in the 2.30 at Muss right there and then, taking pretty much 2/1. He was 2/1F last time out and fell, or unseated, which didn't give me much reason to believe he would go off any shorter coming back, especially with Woody Waller looking the form horse that should defo get backed in. Well it's all abandoned now so whatevs.

Only 1 meeting today so let's hope there's no pesky winners!! :nono-1-1:

BANK: £928

BTW, I worked out the profit/loss like this. Amount of lays done was 27. 20 lost and 7 won. So I take the number 27, minus 5% comms from 20 of those pts, well that's 1pt. So it's now 26pts, minus all the pts losses. So a horse wins at 6.0, I minus 5pts. Well I think that's right anyway.

The prices I got on winners were:
Piscean 5.1 (went off at 11/2 which I missed and had to get on in running, clearly as he was about to win :biggrin: )

Emma's Gift: 8.8 (8/1 SP so not bad)

Layline: I took 7.0 a bit early not thinking it would be backed. (9/2 SP :ermmm )

Starkie 3.7 (5.2 SP)
Face Value 3.2 (7/4 SP)

Palmyra 7.2 (11/2 SP)

Burnhope 5.2 (4/1 SP)

So that's 26pts - 4.1 - 7.8 - 6 - 2.7 - 2.2 - 6.2 - 4.2 =

[ProPocer]

Layed (laid?) 4 horses today, one of them twice. Two of them were odds on shots so it didn't look good. The first one was tough to watch as the selection was absolutely cruising out in front with the rest of the field going hell for leather and looking all but beat. Until 2nd fave came out of nowhere and the favourite just failed to pick up when asked. He drew level in the last nano yard and it ended up a dead heat! So half a pt for that, except it was actually 0.415 of a pt for whatever reason that is. The final odds on shot obliged nicely and got beat convincingly by 2nd fave again, along with the others to make a clean sheet.

P/L TODAY: +4.2
TOTAL P/L: -3
BANK: £970

[ProPocer]

Hmm just woke up late and missed the first lay which was successful @ 4/1 :doh1: Gonna take some getting used to this remembering to do stuff :biggrin:

[Win2Win]

Just remember that you have to get up to go for a :pss when playing poker :rolleyes:

[ProPocer]

I'm usually playing til 4-6am so getting up before 2pm is unusual :yikes:

[ProPocer]

Definitely picked the wrong week to stop injecting heroin into my eye ball!!!

[Win2Win]

Not many selections so any winners can make a day seem a lot worse than it would on a busy day, and even less bets for Tuesday.

[ProPocer]

An utterly horrendous day for me. 24 lays with 10 winners .

Not sure what's going on with my calcs but can't see to get them to add up. I worked it out to a 19.4pt loss but I lost £213 (£10 per stake) for all my lays. Not alot but ultimately a 2pt difference so going to have to go over another 12 times to figure it out :doh

Found an extra lay so that's 1pt made up, so -18.4.

[ProPocer]

Not many selections so any winners can make a day seem a lot worse than it would on a busy day, and even less bets for Tuesday.

Indeed, fortunately my job teaches you to deal with variance of the worst kind. I'll battle on thru.

[ProPocer]

Right, gotta start this again! Knew I was doing something wrong which I won't divulge because it's a pathetic schoolboy error lol. But let's just say Keith must have been wondering how the hell I only lost 7pts on Saturday when he lost 15!!

So on Saturday I layed 31 selections. That obv includes when one horse is layed twice/thrice etc. 7 won, all single selections, no double or triple whammies on this day. This resulted in an 11.4pt loss. Still better than the boss got so happy with that :thumbs

Sat's P/L: -11.4pts
BANK: £886

Sunday was correct. +4.2pts


BANK: £928


And for today's correction:

TODAY'S P/L: -28.54pts!!!
TOTAL P/L: -35.74
BANK: £642.50
COMPARISON: win2win -34

Nigh on a 40% loss in 3 days. I'm sure there's been worse but am unsure whether to halve the stakes now and miss out on a more rapid come back for the sake of safety.

[Win2Win]

Still better than the boss got so happy with that :thumbs.

I'm not :rolleyes: :biggrin:

-28 is about 'average' bad ...... You can get a rare -40 :ooo

[ProPocer]

Today I've downloaded the BetAngel trial but as I've yet to figure out how to use it I first of all decided to experiment with BF SP. With my usual stake being £10 I've just been going for what liability would be to a £10 stake at the odds the horse is on offer when I look. So an hour before the race if it was 5.2 I'd lay to SP at £40 liability. Then whichever way it goes in the market can mean good or bad things so I'd imagine everything evens out either way.
And well, after just a few races I can honestly say it does a **** sight better job at getting prices than I do!!! :laugh What's weird is it doesn't show the bet being placed or anything, all that happens is the race goes off and next thing you see the SP price that you got. Really don't know how it does it but it's like it's taking a price you otherwise couldn't get at that precise time if you were doing it manually. This WOULD be absolute perfection if it wasn't for the cut-off region horses. For example: Laura's Bairn won @ 10/1 and was a lay under 12.0 only. Not long before the race it was sitting on 12.0 and there's no way you can put a near cut-off lay on to SP, because in most cases will it drift over the cut-off making it a non selection. I guess you could say the advantage of this is that if a near cut-off horse drifts then it's more likely to lose so getting it on at 15 or something SHOULDN'T see too many mishaps. And if it's backed in to win , well at least you got the shortest price! Anyway I didn't even look at the horse near the off, my eyes were fixed on the other 2 horses as I'd already put it out of mind and forgotten about it so I've no idea if the BF price was layable or not. I missed it so it's a result!

[ProPocer]

The 3.30 odds on lay was a classic example of male > female bullying! Macy Anne goes into the lead in the final furlong, Luke then wanders over and bullies the girl clean out of the race...can't rely on a woman can ya! :rolleyes:

[MarcusMel]

Drifting out and assuming its losing without long terms stats is a very dangerous assumption. In many long distance races the jocky rests the horse for the final effort odds can easily drift to 15 and 20 in such races.

[ProPocer]

Another bad day, but bettter than it should have been thanks to missing Laura's Bairn!!
9 lays, 3 winners. Laying to liabilities and mixing up the liability somewhat I ended up with a 4.4pt loss. To the usual levels it would have been -3pts.

TODAY: -3
TOTAL: -38.74
£1k STARTING BANK: £612.50
COMPARISON: win2win -34

[ProPocer]

Today was going swimmingly until the last race. Fortunately I completely butchered it not realising the time, had to try getting them all on in running and ended up getting the winner on at 2.2 lol. Sadly I didn't get the other 3 lays on though but still ended up losing less than if I'd done it before the race. I also ended up laying Rightcar twice for some reason when I sholdn't have, which turned out to be very lucky as he lost by only a neck!! I'll record results how it should have been though.

12 lays, 1 winner.

TODAY: +1.45
WIN2WIN: +5
TOTAL: -37.29
£1K STARTING BANK: £627
WIN2WIN COMPARE: -29

SYSTEM BANKERS: +1.9

[ProPocer]

Siiiiiiiigh. Yet another day which started out great and ended badly, just when you're anticipating that so crucially needed clean sweep at the moment :frown:

Worst of it was, Lisseton Cross won at 11/2, on which I got a cracking price of 7.8 :doh1: Mind you another winner over in Meydan in Mendip went off at 10/1 yet an easy 9.8 was available right before the race. Had it been racing over here 10/1 probably would have been to high to get on :rolleyes: Swings n roundabouts, preferably less swings pleeeeeeeeeease.

Let's see if I can get this right first time today :rolleyes: 27 lays 4 winners.

TODAY: -4.36
win2win: -9 ?
TOTAL: -41.65
£1k STARTING BANK: £583.40
win2win compare: -38

So more than 40% of bank gone. Still gritting my teeth and sticking with £10 stakes more or less, but that's now TWO % of the bank. Pretty risky for laying so I'm led to believe.

[ProPocer]

First half of the day a disaster. 40% of bank remaining. If it goes I'll be quitting.

[ProPocer]

39 lays, 5 winners, but unfortunately all well above the average winning price. All but one of them were at this weirdo Kempton AW meeting but for NHF racing only. Not sure when this started but surely there can't be long term statistics for it?

The total winners SP came to 30/1. The total prices I got was 34.06 so not bad overlay considering they were well above average odds. Well do the math on that and it should make -1.75pts. With slightly differing stakes/liabilities I actually got -2.32.

TODAY -2.32
TOTAL -43.97
£1k STARTING BANK £560.20


I'm going to have to start leaving orders at the beginning of the day, just before racing starts or something. They require just far too much attention to do them live and for the small money to be made whilst building banks they're just not worth the near on heart attacks watching triple lays losing by a gnat on a horse nose nearly every race, especially as it's actually less stressful playing poker for 10x the size of the swings somehow lol. As I can't get the hang of any software that "apparently" automates betting for you, I'm simply going to have to leave orders based on all the prices available at the time of placing bets. I am going to experiment with placing the order on whatever the BACK bet is, so usually one tick better than the current lay price and see how many get matched. Obviously there will be an exposure problem if my bank can't take it all so maybe I'll have to put half on and do half later. The same goes for the night racing. It will involve plenty of phone alarm setting as otherwise I'll forget it all lol. So, it looks like I'll probably miss a few doing this method, some cases will get terrible prices but hopefully some cases will get great ones and it HOPEFULLY all evens out.

[Win2Win]

NHF races on the AW have been going for years :thumbs ... just not meetings with ALL NHF races, but they have also happened before.

Having multiple heart attacks during racing is all part of the fun :biggrin:

[ProPocer]

Mm there's a reason amateur riders are called AMATEUR! :censored::censored::censored::censored:ing useless!!! :rolleyes:

[ProPocer]

Phew! What a day! Think we had about 750 lays to do :omg: Ok slight exaggeration. Let's see if I tot all this up right.

76 lays :omg: saw 11 winners. I'm slightly annoyed with myself because this should have been 10 winners with an extra 8.2pts added to the total- for the simple reason that whilst I'm supposed to backing the system bankers, I completely forgot them until the very last one (which was a handy 11/4 winner), but the first one who won @ 7/2 was also a turbo lay which meant I'd have ignored the lay to back it. Oh well, live n learn.

I mixed up between stakes and liabilities and ended up with a pts total of 17.43.

TODAY +17.43
win2win compare+14 :lickme
TOTAL -26.54
win2win total -24
£1K STARTING BANK £734.50

[Win2Win]

A Profits a profit, but you should really start with smaller stakes while you get all the errors out of the way..... and you think that's a busy day... wait until next Saturday :ooo

[ProPocer]

A day of profit today so perhaps the wrong day to reduce stakes :doh1: I decided to bet to 1% of the bank until back to the £1k start where I will keep stakes to levels whilst in profit until bank has grown significantly, probably 100%, but while in loss will stake to 1%. not sure if that would work or not. Obviously it's cushioning for losing times but then recovery is slower. Hmmm.

Anyway today I layed 27 though it reeeaaaaly didn't feel like that many at all. I guess it wouldn't after a 76 lay day!! :ooo

There were 3 winners. My PL worked out to +12.5pts.

TODAY +12.5
win2win +10 :erotic4:
TOTAL: -14.04
win2win compare -14
£1K STARTING BANK: £822

[Win2Win]

One thing with reducing stakes is the mindset that you are reducing profits. This is not the case, you are doing it to protect the bank from being wiped out. If what you are doing has long term profits then then the bank will steadily climb :smile:

[ProPocer]

Yeh sure, I'm just impatient :rolleyes: I haven't started them at the optimal time life wise because I've got 6 months rent in advance to pay at the end of this month plus I've just bought a mortorbike for nigh on £3k so am just being steady for now. Hopefully in a month or less I can inject more into the bank and get the stakes upto £12-£15.

[ProPocer]

The day started very promising until the final lay for me won, Berlusca. I hate laying anything Kieron Fallon's on :+) I left the last race for betangel to deal with, got home and found it had layed nothing which was good because an 11/1 winner came in. Presumably everything was over the cut-off although one horse was 8/1 SP and I left the order at 11 so unsure how it missed.

18 lays, 4 winners (2 an odds on double).

TODAY +4.5
win2win +3
TOTAL -9.54
£1K STARTING BANK £858
win2win compare -11

SYSTEM BANKER TOTAL +12.9 (3% bank £430)

[ProPocer]

Today I placed all bets using betangel but unfortunately didn't get past 4pm. Well not sure how unfortunate as unsure what difference that would have made. I was expecting to be home by then to do the rest but wasn't so...

16 lays, 1 winner.

TODAY +9.75
win2win +14 :ooo
TOTAL +0.21
£1K STARTING BANK £936
win2win compare +3

[Win2Win]

I was expecting to be home by then to do the rest but wasn't so...



Don't worry .... that still happens to me :doh1:

[MarcusMel]

You may have seen this in the forum elsewhere. With system betting there is an optimal percentage of the bank to bet each time on a horse. This optimal percentage for most systems on each individual bet (i.e place a bet it loses take new bet size as 3% of current bank value) mostly turns out to be in the 2.5% to 3.5% range so using 3% roughly maximising your return on your betting investments. If you go outside of these values in the long run you will dramictically reduce your potential profit.

THIS does not apply to laying systems, care to add more info to this Keith?

[Win2Win]

THIS does not apply to laying systems, care to add more info to this Keith?

Are you just checking I'm reading your posts? :biggrin:

Your bank is always at the biggest risk when you start, so over time you want to reduce the % stake.

If you have win systems of 70%+ it is fine to use up to 5%, you generally only get that sort of SR with very low priced horse/footy teams.

[ProPocer]

I wasn't around to do a single bet today so put the lot into betangel and hoped for the best. It's a very suspense like thing when you come in, goto the BF screen and just refresh balance to see what happens. It literally feels like a lucky dip :+) Fortunately it refreshed to a bigger number so all was well :thumbs

64 lays, 6 winners.

TODAY +22
win2win +14 :Helooo
TOTAL +22.21
£1K STARTING BANK (4th Feb 2012) £1136
win2win compare +17

[ProPocer]

Well, another good day :yikes: Although it has to be said, the prices I got on the losers were pretty lame! A 20% overlay.

71 lays, 4 losers.

TODAY +39.65 :yikes::yikes::yikes::yikes::yikes::yikes::yikes::yikes::yikes::yikes:
win2win +40
TOTAL +61.86
£1k BANK STARTED 04.02.12 £1532
win2win compare 57

Pretty insane stuff!! I think just the first 2 weeks of my blog can show perfectly just how volatile this game can be! In that short time we've experienced swings of the most violent fashion in BOTH directions. As Keith rightly says, it is as many selections as possible that is most likely to be key to a very winning lay system.

Since almost a 50% bank loss I now have a 50% gain on the starting figure. Which is actually 300% growth from the lowest bank!! So in one week I've nigh onTRIPLED the bank :yikes::yikes: I'm not going to count even one little feather on any chicken though. Tempting to up stakes to about £12 but no I should keep a cool head and stick to £10.

Incidentally I've only put one system banker bet on since there has been 4 or 5 more selections I think (just keep forgetting) so that stands at +11.9 bank £415.

[Win2Win]

I told you it's volatile, which is why you have to start with a stake of 1% MAX, but the turnover makes up for that. I do mention it's one hell of a ride... especially if you're watching every race :yikes:

[ProPocer]

TODAY -6.2
win2win -23 :ooo
TOTAL +55.66
win2win compare +34
£1k BANK STARTED 04.02.12 £1464

[Win2Win]

Quiet day then? :wink:

[ProPocer]

If by quiet you mean extremely violent then yes :helper :wink:

A few winners today above average prices plus my overlay was pretty crap.

Strangely enough tomorrow looks like one of the quietest days of the week! Not even an AW evening meeting which is totally :yikes::doh:omg::crazy::rolleyes:

[Win2Win]

I always feel that hiting 2 winners early in the day and clawing it back is a lot more fun than having the days profits wiped out by a 10.5 winner in the 9:20 at Wolves :yikes:

[ProPocer]

True, it's the same with poker. I don't think I've hit one at 12.0 yet though, hoping it will never happen :+)

[ProPocer]

Yesterday was bang on break even, I've spent no time at all apart from placing them in betangel. Didn't do today's (sunday's) at all.

Sat + -0
win2win -7
TOTAL +55.66
win2win +27
£1k BANK STARTED 04.02.12 £1464

[ProPocer]

Stood to lose a massive 25pts on the last race of the day with a TRIPLE lay on a 9.8 shot. He was actually 8/1 SP so a good price but thank **** it lost. Searching for a "bundle of nerves perhaps requiring trauma therapy" smilie :biggrin:

Also totally annoyed because I bet on Redair to place last night seeing his massive odds with perfectly ok form and thought he was wayyyyyyyy too big, and just do not know why I didn't take money for the win aswell. Won at 40/1!! :ooo

[Win2Win]

Stood to lose a massive 25pts on the last race of the day with a TRIPLE lay on a 9.8 shot. He was actually 8/1 SP so a good price but thank **** it lost. Searching for a "bundle of nerves perhaps requiring trauma therapy" smilie :biggrin:


Fun though init? :biggrin:

[ProPocer]

:crazy: :smile:

TODAY -7.5
win2win -1 :mad:
TOTAL +48.17
win2win compare +26
£1k BANK STARTED 04.02.12 £1389

[ProPocer]

TODAY +0.73
win2win -18 :+)
TOTAL +48.9
win2win compare +8
£1k BANK STARTED 04.02.12 £1396

At the moment we can see the rather huge differences between me and win2win where I am placing the lays much earlier to be done through BetAngel, despite the fact they are still placing the bets 1 minute before the off. The reason for this is because I will see a horse that is at the time of placing the orders something like 13.5 and upwards. What I am doing is then looking at the RP forecast and if it's 10/1 or less I might place the order thinking that someone on betfair is just giving an over generous price. But if the RP forecast is over 10/1 then I am presuming the horse is not going to be coming back in as expected and if it does then it's going to be rather fancied, so I'm leaving it. This should work out as swings and roundabouts and win2win will end up laying more horses because of those who have come below the cut off and lost. But in the short term for now, you can see a pretty wild difference! :yikes:

[ProPocer]

BACK TO SQUARE ONE :ermmm:ermmm:ermmm

[Win2Win]

That's how betting works whether it is laying or winning, you just have to keep going till you hit a cluster that takes you to the next level you get stuck at for a while :wink:

[ProPocer]

TODAY -33 :ermmm should be considerably worse than win2win as I also missed about 5 or 6pts from bodging some stuff up.
win2win -20
TOTAL +15.9
win2win -12
£1k BANK STARTED 04.02.12 £1066

[Win2Win]

The other thing you have to remember is that turnover gets your commission % down :thumbs

[ProPocer]

Yeh think I'm on 4.8% lol not sure what's the lowest you'd get at £10 stakes.

[Win2Win]

You'll get down a bit more than that and on turnover 0.5% works out at quite a lot of savings over a year. :thumbs

[ProPocer]

23rd +4.2
win2win +10
YEST -5.4
win2win -21
TOTAL +14.7
win2win -23
£1k BANK STARTED 04.02.12 £1054

[ProPocer]

Saturday was -10.5 for me and yesterday -2. Think win2win was -11 and +5 respectively.#

TOTAL +2.2
win2win -29
£1k BANK STARTED 04.02.12 £929

Time to reduce stakes again. It's only been just over 3 weeks since I started these but already feels more like 3 years :yikes: :rolleyes:

[schopenhauer]

Would it be ok, if I write down my results in this thread too?

[ProPocer]

You could do if Keith wants to change the thread title. Why not join the...what's an alien version of rollercoaster??? :rolleyes:

[ProPocer]

A day of absolute hell (minus 40 pts) and the worst timing ever with me on a sick poker downswing at the moment as well! :smileybigangry:

[ProPocer]

TODAY -41.3
win2win -31
TOTAL -39.1
win2win -54
£1k BANK STARTED 04.02.12 £558 :headbange :ermmm

[schopenhauer]

System Start: 18.01.2012
Starting bank: 500
Staking: 4

Stakes are reduced to 2, when the bank drops under 250.


These are the daily results so far:



-£67,67 £432,33
£38,71 £471,04
£27,34 £498,38
£48,27 £546,65
£35,64 £582,29
£29,83 £612,12
-£2,57 £609,55
£19,52 £629,07
£31,19 £660,26
-£12,52 £647,74
-£49,97 £597,77
£65,73 £663,50
-£94,85 £568,65
£1,98 £570,63
-£63,12 £507,51
£52,93 £560,44
£13,14 £573,58
-£74,37 £499,21
£16,69 £515,90
-£88,19 £427,71
-£0,10 £427,61
£25,84 £453,45
£13,07 £466,52
-£44,11 £422,41
£67,53 £489,94
£5,52 £495,46
£19,36 £514,82
£41,55 £556,37
£62,58 £618,95
£78,51 £697,46
-£70,15 £627,31
-£39,93 £587,38
-£14,18 £573,20
£23,93 £597,13
-£45,45 £551,68
-£99,98 £451,70
-£14,92 £436,78
-£37,76 £399,02
-£107,58 £291,44
-£33,41 £258,03
-£60,20 £197,83

[ProPocer]

So today I have to reduce stakes by almost HALF. It's clear to see that if the swings go up and down in such a way, that even with say 100pts profit to level stakes, it could work out to still being break even or even in loss with reducing stakes. I guess we'll find out.

Oh and for the record as you can see this is a 100pt loss in a matter of days.

[schopenhauer]

Started: 18.01.2012
Starting bank: 500 with stakes of 4
Current bank: 197,83
Current stake: 2

[ProPocer]

You started 18th of Jan? I think win2win is up 20pts since then :yikes:

[schopenhauer]

Maybe win2win was lucky not to take the horses that won near the cutoffs.

Unfortunately I've also had some high priced double and triple lays that won. That's everytime about -100€. Maybe I should leave the doubles and triples out?

Yesterday I tried to put in a list with my daily profit/loss. Seems that it hasn't worked...it's not here. :P

[schopenhauer]

Okay, seems that I know now, why my list from yesterday isn't visible. "Thank you for posting! Your post will not be visible until a moderator has approved it for posting."

[schopenhauer]

28.02.2012: -51,79

Starting bank: 500 with stakes of 4
Current bank: 146,04
Current stake: 2

[ProPocer]

Another horrendous day with a 30pt loss. That's pretty much a ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY PT DOWNSWING.

To suggest running this extremely volatile system at a 1% stake seems pretty insane to me. I would personally advise no higher than 0.5% ever ever ever. I'm considering whether to bother carrying on to be honest. Soon will be at the minimum stake and to get back even from there will take eons :ermmm

[TheGoodGuy]

Okay, seems that I know now, why my list from yesterday isn't visible. "Thank you for posting! Your post will not be visible until a moderator has approved it for posting."

Hi schopenhauer

Your results list should be visible now. Apologies for it taking so long for us to get it out of the moderated post queue. It must have slipped through the net!

:thumbs

[ProPocer]

TODAY -29.4
win2win -23
TOTAL -70.7
win2win -77
£1k BANK STARTED 04.02.12 £381

[ProPocer]

Looking at the state of today's selections (top 5 favourites in loads of races :doh) I'm predicting another landslide :+)

EDIT: First 3 romp home :hoho:

[schopenhauer]

29.02.2012: -29,09

Starting bank: 500 with stakes of 4
Current bank: 116,95
Current stake: 2

[schopenhauer]

At the moment I don't know whether to continue or to take the rest of the bank and put it into another system.:anerikke:

I think, even if it would go up a little bit now, the next bad day will wipe out the bank completely or the bank is too small then for the liability.

[ProPocer]

YEST -10
win2win -7
TOTAL -80.7
win2win -84
£1k BANK STARTED 04.02.12 £341

[schopenhauer]

01.03.2012: -5,09

Starting bank: 500 with stakes of 4
Current bank: 111,86
Current stake: 2

Today I wasn't able to bet the evening races.

[ProPocer]

Yet another losing day totalling a 150pt downswing. I'm guessing that's a record amount since they started being even paper tested...

[schopenhauer]

02.03.2012: -3,15

Starting bank: 500 with stakes of 4
Current bank: 108,71
Current stake: 2

[schopenhauer]

03.03.2012: -29,26

Starting bank: 500 with stakes of 4
Current bank: 79,45
Current stake: 2

I think the first attempt failed after 12 losing days in a row.
Maybe I try it again, but first the other systems have to compensate the loss.

[ProPocer]

I've stopped for now having as good as bust the bank. Looking at results since I stopped the swing got to about 180pts, and well could get worse. I'm going to come back at a later date and try again with a bigger bank and smaller stakes. After all, it's far quicker for me BUILDING a bank playing poker than it is laying to £2 stakes for sure! Next time I'm not going to lay any higher than 0.5% of the bank. And I think that should be a golden rule preached around here in my own honest opinion. :thumbs

[MarcusMel]

Sorry to hear you bust the bank - The system bets have taken a bit a hit the last two days too :frown:
Still a statistical correction was due after being such a huge success over the last 20 days or so.

[schopenhauer]

Hopefully I don't get a bad start with the system bets too.
I've had a superb start with the pro bets in October, as I tripled the starting bank in a month, but they are also suffering since November.:doh1:
Seems that I'm not the lucky beggar.:anerikke:

Statistically it has to get better some day. (I hope) :lickme