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Godspot
18th May 2012, 14:02
Here's an interesting angle that produces a few winners under either code but today there are two qualifiers going...
Basically, take note of horses that are entered up in pattern class first time out & then drop out as NR's & return at some point in lower class - you could follow them until they win their maidens?
3.10 Newb - Curl, was entered in the Listed first race at York has gone for easier option.
4.30 Newm - Pink Damsel, entered also for Listed 2.10 York, again takes easier option.
Godspot
18th May 2012, 15:20
God, life doesn't half take the P at times - that 3.10 Curl just lost while I just had two un-backed top rated winners, Fennell Bay & Resplendent Light - chuffing blink & u miss smth!
Anyway, was just going to say - a bit like yesterday: Yesterday's time-of-the-meet at Salisbury, had to wait 7 starts & upped 3 furlongs in trip but first time since debut was a decent price - Traveller's Tales - XoM PB 93+ WW off brisk p 57dys 10g Salis +14 Improved trip May 12 - Listed E'd FTO but NR Jun 11 - Cape Cross filly owned by Queen
Win2Win
18th May 2012, 19:53
Plenty of high priced winners going in the last week pushing the SR over what it should be, so a few fancied runners should have a run soon to put it right again.
Godspot
18th May 2012, 21:56
3.10 Newb - Curl, was entered in the Listed first race at York has gone for easier option.
4.30 Newm - Pink Damsel, entered also for Listed 2.10 York, again takes easier option.
2/1 winner Pink Damsel - thankfully she drifted back out, I thought she was getting backed off the boards but
Godspot
24th May 2012, 13:07
3.55 Weth - "WELL SHARP could be a tough nut to crack if translating his useful Flat form to this game. A good third at Royal Ascot last term, he cost new connections 250,000 guineas and it will be disappointing if he can't make a big splash at this level for his in-form stable.[Steve Boow]" says in the RP
but Triumph Hurdle Entered NR first time out as a hurdler - gets a stone from the principals & McCoy 10 7, 6/4 at present
Godspot
25th May 2012, 01:10
3.55 Weth - "WELL SHARP could be a tough nut to crack if translating his useful Flat form to this game. A good third at Royal Ascot last term, he cost new connections 250,000 guineas and it will be disappointing if he can't make a big splash at this level for his in-form stable.[Steve Boow]" says in the RP
but Triumph Hurdle Entered NR first time out as a hurdler - gets a stone from the principals & McCoy 10 7, 6/4 at present
Wins 9/4 & another that drifted from early odds - 2 from 3 now, so expect some losers:rolleyes:
Godspot
25th May 2012, 14:10
The above mentioned CURL, goes in the 2.55 @ Hayd bit of an awkward race but I think I have some stats somewhere that suggest Pat Dobbs being profitable for Hannon when horses 2nd start?
Godspot
30th May 2012, 10:57
2/4 after that Curl disappointed again...
Trainer Mick Channon is enjoying a good run at present & has a few prospects today & I quite confident he'll have a winner, as to whether it'll be
8.35 Bev - Shivsingh
is anyone's guess but seems to be drifting to a fair EW price for one rated 63 that made their debut in a Listed race & once boasted a Derby entry.
Godspot
31st May 2012, 00:48
Another Non-Runner?
Godspot
31st May 2012, 12:26
Still 2/4 after yesterday NR - not too confident about today's offering
6.35 Newc - Ana Emaratiya
Trainer is 19% SR with 2yo's this season so far but stats for course not brilliant & didn't show much when nearer last than first at York
Godspot
7th June 2012, 02:02
2/5 after that little disappointment but while the racing is a bit poor I thought I'd have a look ahead - these are un-raced 2yo's that hold an entry in the Grade Two Railway Stakes 30th Jun 2012 @ the Curragh -
the ones to get really excited about are those with 20 or more Dosage Points (in brackets) or where I say "DC too!"
[B]Afonso De Sousa - Gr2 E'd FTO Jun 12 - DP = 7-1-26-6-0 (40) DI = 1.11 CD = 0.23 DC too! rels inc 10f 128rpr
George Vancouver - Gr2 E'd FTO Jun 12 - DP = 7-6-23-6-0 (42) DI = 1.40 CD = 0.33 DC too! rels inc 8f 114rpr
King Of The Romans - Gr2 E'd FTO Jun 12 - DP = 7-6-15-4-0 (32) DI = 1.78 CD = 0.50
Mars - Gr2 E'd FTO Jun 12 - DP = 5-2-13-4-0 (24) DI = 1.29 CD = 0.33 DC too!
Mohawk Lane - Gr2 E'd FTO Jun 12 - DP = 10-4-14-8-0 (36) DI = 1.40 CD = 0.44
Nevis - Gr2 E'd FTO Jun 12 - DP = 1-2-6-0-1 (10) DI = 1.50 CD = 0.20 DC too!
Quadriga - Gr2 E'd FTO Jun 12 - Ger bred 12f fav or 2m+ OTF - DP = 1-0-2-1-0 (4) DI = 1.00 CD = 0.25 - rels inc 9f 108 rpr
Rain God - Gr2 E'd FTO Jun 12 - DP = 11-4-23-6-0 (44) DI = 1.51 CD = 0.45 DC too!
Scrapper Blackwell - Gr2 E'd FTO Jun 12 - DP = 6-1-8-1-0 (16) DI = 2.20 CD = 0.75
Godspot
14th June 2012, 15:15
Missed a couple here:doh1:
Got one tonight though, though jockey stats aren't brilliant
5.20 Leop - King Of The Romans & a stable 2nd string, not sure if that good either?
Godspot
15th June 2012, 13:04
H'mm 2/6 another disap yesterday -
Got one of the best from those Railway entries above running today, bit short & if he goes below evens we wont bother but if he stays above we will -
5.25 Navan - George Vancouver
Godspot
16th June 2012, 10:32
H'mm 2/6 another disap yesterday -
Got one of the best from those Railway entries above running today, bit short & if he goes below evens we wont bother but if he stays above we will -
5.25 Navan - George Vancouver
So of course he loses at evens after having touched 5/4 so we'll count him :mad: but in future wont bother with much below 2/1 - so 2/7 now...
Interesting prospect today:
4.45 York - Complicator - was entered for 3 of Royal Ascot's juvenile pattern races - takes the soft option today, floating around 16/s+ & trainer 2/5 with his juvvies at the track these last 5 years, possible EW?
Godspot
18th June 2012, 01:14
Interesting prospect today:
4.45 York - Complicator - was entered for 3 of Royal Ascot's juvenile pattern races - takes the soft option today, floating around 16/s+ & trainer 2/5 with his juvvies at the track these last 5 years, possible EW?
Tut tut, comes 4th @ 12/s & race won by my clear top rated beating 3rd TR to give nice FC for the figs, most typical:ermmm, so , 2/8 & going downhill fast....
Godspot
21st June 2012, 11:15
Got a couple tonight @ Leopardstown:
5.55 Pedro The Great - is a fair price while there is money for Wexford Opera but it is J Oxx who has the best stats with 2yo's at the course?
6.55 Circle - who was pulled from a Group 3 for his debut, hopeful we still get 2/1
Godspot
22nd June 2012, 10:41
I'll call it 3/10? With a small loss at level stakes?
Pedro won but a couple of non-runners decimated his price to evens - Circle was beaten a neck by my clear top rated at 3/1.
If we can maintain that 30% SR with a few better SP's this could prove worth persevering with?
Godspot
25th June 2012, 11:27
How Sweet It Is - 7.20 Thirsk
Ran in a Listed first time up last year & has yet to impress but she seems best fresh & is an EW price so we give her the last chance saloon treatment:smile:
Godspot
30th June 2012, 15:16
3/11 sad -
Two in the first race at the Curragh:
3.40 - We'll go Win on George & EW on Afonso
Afonso De Sousa - Gr2 E'd FTO Jun 12 - DP = 7-1-26-6-0 (40) DI = 1.11 CD = 0.23 DC too! rels inc 10f 128rpr
George Vancouver - Gr2 E'd FTO Jun 12 - DP = 7-6-23-6-0 (42) DI = 1.40 CD = 0.33 DC too! rels inc 8f 114rpr
Godspot
1st July 2012, 11:07
3/11 sad -
Two in the first race at the Curragh:
3.40 - We'll go Win on George & EW on Afonso
Didn't like that - George Vancouver was backed from 3/s into evens & comes nowhere - at all, Afonso, was 3rd at 9/s & we have two more in one race again today in the first at the Curragh where 6 of the eight runners boast Gr1 entries - me thinks I is sailing uncharted waters with this on the flat & especially in Ireland.
The United States & Nevis, one of them had better win at 2/1 or more to keep me interested??
Godspot
2nd July 2012, 16:16
The United States & Nevis, one of them had better win at 2/1 or more to keep me interested??
Oh well, 3/13 as The United States won [lucky it not a war, would've lost to be sure but] 2/1 & today a bit of an optimistic [trainer/owner ?] last time flop from Ascot
6.40 Jackpot - floating around 60/s+, so we'll go EW
Godspot
5th February 2013, 14:29
This works a lot better over the jumps & here's this years starter pack:
& one of them set to run in a minute at Market Rasen Somemothersdohavem
Berabani Gr1 Triumph E'd FTO as h Feb 13 -
Black Spirit Gr1 Sup Nov E'd FTO as h Feb 13 - 07Class! 117flat - 4/4 CB USA bred
Brinestine Gr1 Triumph E'd FTO as h Feb 13 - 91flat
Cape Explorer Gr1 Triumph E'd FTO as h Feb 13 - 106flat
Courtesy Call Gr1 Triumph E'd FTO as h Feb 13 - Ger bred - 101flat
Darley Sun (Ire) Gr1 Nep Nov E'd FTO as h Feb 13 - 108flat TDS
Figaro Gr2 E'd FTO as h Feb 13 -
Fire King Gr1 Sup Nov E'd FTO as h Feb 13 - 76flat
Flying Cross Gr1 Sup Nov E'd FTO as h Feb 13 - 95flat - Sadler's Wells(USA)
Gassin Golf Gr1 Triumph E'd FTO as h Feb 13 - 108flat
Lac Fontana Gr1 Triumph E'd FTO as h Feb 13 - Triumph tip fr W2W 20/s Jan 13 - DP = 1-0-2-0-1 (4) DI = 1.00 CD = 0.00 - Ger bred -
Looking On Gr1 Sup Nov E'd FTO as h Feb 13 - 90flat - trnr had Brick Red last yr!
Masters Blazing Gr1 Triumph E'd FTO as h Feb 13 - 82flat
Somemothersdohavem Gr1 Triumph E'd FTO as h Feb 13 - 101flat
Ssafa Gr1 Sup Nov E'd FTO as h Feb 13 - 82flat
Stand To Reason Gr1 Sup Nov E'd FTO as h Feb 13 - 108flat
Uriah Heep Gr1 Triumph E'd FTO as h Feb 13 - 101flat
Western Warhorse (Ire) Gr1 AB Nov E'd FTO as h Feb 13 - 1/1 ptp wnr 24gss Nov 12 -
Zuider Zee Gr1 Sup Nov E'd FTO as h Feb 13 - Ger bred - 116flat - 07Class! 4/4 CB
Godspot
6th February 2013, 11:57
King hell I've missed one & he goes in the last 4.55 @ Ludlow today - Mac's Return
I'll have to edit him in l8r, no time today
So far 0-1-1 Place at 12/s yesterday
Godspot
7th February 2013, 13:42
What a disappointment he was?
0-1-2
3.15 Huntingdon - we got Brinestone ??
Godspot
20th February 2013, 11:59
3.25 Donc - hot little race regards Triumph & the favourite should win but I quite like the look of Berabani at 33/s EW trainer amongst the winners of late & has hot favourite in the last too?
Godspot
22nd February 2013, 02:19
3.25 Donc - hot little race regards Triumph & the favourite should win but I quite like the look of Berabani at 33/s EW trainer amongst the winners of late & has hot favourite in the last too?
Well that was disappointing, knowhere? & race won by another on our list & the shortest priced of three & seems the favourite is only any good on soft ground which will write him off for Cheltenham & was a slow time anyway?
Interesting to note David Pipe is being allowed to run Flying Cross, listed above, without a prep race, straight to the Supreme Novice I suppose?
Godspot
22nd February 2013, 11:37
Shame as I have messed up the stats as I know I've missed a couple more losers as well as those that have run but today
4.20 Warw - Masters Blazing
With the same trainer as Somemothersdohavem who won the other day & already been a bit of a move for in the market??
Godspot
23rd February 2013, 03:46
but today
4.20 Warw - Masters Blazing
With the same trainer as Somemothersdohavem who won the other day & already been a bit of a move for in the market??
Yah!
10/1
Winner!
Godspot
23rd February 2013, 04:13
Think that puts our jump qualifiers in profit & some interesting stuff today:
3.15 Kempton
Brick Red was a qualifier from last year & has done well winning his last three - he is also the RP selection for the race.
Nicky Henderson has a couple of entries & Geraghty rides my clear top rated who possibly improved on unfavorable soft ground last time but
Black Spirit was better rated on the flat & is better bred for this game on dosage figures, we also have Figaro in the line up too who probably outclassed here & better off waiting until he is downgraded a bit imho
& in the 2.05 Kempton
possibly an EW ante-post for the Triumph, available @ 40/s with 365
Courtesy Call
Godspot
24th February 2013, 15:52
H'mm two losers & a NR
& er' NO Zarkandar here I'm afraid not this year but
Perhaps a little silly to be opposing my clear top rateds at Kempton but I must be doing something right - on adjusted official ratings Brick Red was 5lb clear but on mine Forgotten Voice was 5lb clear & he won by 5l's
Just pipped though for time of the meet as hurdlers mainly by 4yo weight allowance & figures suggest Adonis 2nd Vasco De Ronceray would stand a solid chance in the Fred Winter
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